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  1. 3legs

    3legs Real men ride sidecars

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    Thanks guys. I have to admit my Waeco has always run fine. I must check the dairy compartment next time.

    With the car battery I will be ditching the bike battery and just connect the normal + and - leads to the car battery so only one battery. I've done this for years with my k1100 using a 720 marine battery and using arc welding leads and never had a problem however I doubt the charging system on a KLR would be up to that size battery.

    I do have a solar panel on my K1100 but I only need to use it if I'm staying in one spot for a couple of days. The marine battery works fine. I did rig up a dual battery setup on the K1100 about 10 years ago with a redarc controller but ditched it because it was too heavy, took up too much room and to be honest didn't really need it as the 720 marine battery alone had heaps of juice to run the fridge without the bike running. Even after 2 days (although I did turn the fridge off at night) of running directly off the battery my bike started 1st press of the button.

    I really want to be able to take my fridge as once you have one you will never go back to an esky especially for trips that last for weeks so it would appear that a KLR or even a DR won't be able to handle a fridge. Might have to rethink which bike to get. I certainly don't want a bloated pig eg GSA or KTM. If the F800GS or Triumph 800 was not fuel injected I would get one of them but I just love the simplicity of a KLR (especially when you out in the middle of nowhere).

    Cheers

    3legs
  2. Toy Rolex

    Toy Rolex Been here awhile

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    Turning your fridge off at night is a good move as this lets the fridge insulation that has been heated up by the motor cool down helping your fridge to work more efficiently & keep the dairy compartment temperatures down.

    Can you change your lights to LED ? this would gain you some power.

    If you left the KLR battery in place and fitted a VSR (voltage sensing relay) between that and your marine battery it would ensure your ride got all the power it needs before it powered the fridge battery.
  3. 3legs

    3legs Real men ride sidecars

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    I still have all the electrical gear from the previous dual battery setup which includes the redarc VSR and the 100 amp fuses.

    So do you reckon I could leave the normal KLR battery where it is and use a car battery as the aux battery, wire up using the VSR and the KLR charging system could handle that?

    If so then I can run the fridge directly off the car battery without compromising the bike battery. If that's possible then a KLR might be back on the cards. I might even consider getting a lightweight solar panel to just trickle charge the aux battery when engine is not running.

    I did think of using a 720 marine battery but that might be too much. What do you think?

    3legs
  4. griffo1962

    griffo1962 Long timer

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    also you could always get the newer Gen2 which makes a bit more "spark"
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    slowbike smallpenis Tester of Tooheys Old

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    'Bout time you upgraded. :lol3

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  8. KLR 650 guy

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    Hey 3legs .. Are you puttin a chair on a Klr for that Waco to fit in .. My 40ltr Engel fits on my tray I had made up but is a bit hard to fit there when I have a top box and dog there
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  9. Toy Rolex

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    Using a VSR will maintain the KLR battery so that's a good start, it will let you know if you are not producing enough power so another benefit.

    I have never owned a KLR but my first test would be start the bike, turn on all loads like lights including the brake light then hook up the fridge, turn the fridge to freeze to ensure the motor is loaded then check for voltage at the battery.

    If you get less than 13.8 you could struggle to keep things topped up, keeping your wires as big as possible and as short as possible will help as will reducing the bikes load like LEDs or switching stuff off (not sure if the KLR runs the headlight off AC or DC)

    The Waeco has 2 low voltage setting but they are not there to protect the battery they are there to protect the fridge motor, as the Volts drop the AMPs go up.

    The more high RPM ridding you do the better the system will work, if you are stuck in traffic power to the fridge may go backwards.

    Marine batteries work well because they can handle the punishment the bike and the fridge will give it and they recover their charge quite quickly compared with other battery types.

    Your dream of having a light weight outfit are gone when you add the weight of battery and fridge.

    Solar would be a small help if you were going to be parked in the one spot for a few days and you are prepared to chase the sun then there is the extra weight of the panel (about 80-100w to do a fair job), if you go the solar route up grade to a MPPT controller they do supply extra power when the sun shines.

    I'm interested as to why the fridge and not just a good fiberglass esky. ?
  10. slowbike smallpenis

    slowbike smallpenis Tester of Tooheys Old

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  11. 3legs

    3legs Real men ride sidecars

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    When my mate gets back from o/s I might hook the fridge up to his KLR and see what the volts are before deciding to buy a KLR. I want to keep using my fridge rather than an esky because there ain't no ice 500 km from the nearest town:lol3. I haven't used an esky since I bought my fridge nearly 10 years ago.

    I agree I will have added weight in the chair but over the years I've managed to get the rest of the gear I take down to an absolute minimum. Most sidecar riders take much more than they need (myself included ) and because the Beemer had the power it wasn't a problem but with a KLR I will need to be a lot fussier in the gear I take.

    I only ride outfits these days due to having a f@#ked leg from a previous motorcycle accident many years ago so the lighter the whole outfit the better especially as I get older.

    The only concern for me is riding the blacktop to get to the dirt. Once I'm on dirt I rarely go over 100kmh anyway it's just getting there and hoping the KLR can sit on 110kmh with some reserve for overtaking.

    From what I've read from the Yanks they reckon a KLR outfit will sit on 65-70 mph so that bodes well.

    Will let you know how I go with the volts when I get the chance.

    cheers

    3legs
  12. slowbike smallpenis

    slowbike smallpenis Tester of Tooheys Old

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    Had my first ride on a KLR today, the one I bought. Making me wonder why I hadn't looked at these things before. Nice gear spacing, engine seems capable nice wind protection 21lt tank and quite and the whole bike costs about the price of a BMW 40000 Klms service!

    Happy Chappy so far.
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  13. Toy Rolex

    Toy Rolex Been here awhile

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    To save power I have used my 18lt Waeco to make ice while on the move then used that ice in my down under ice box.
  14. Rockman

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    I found that 100-105 kmh was possible on the blacktop, with a top speed of about 125 but the whole thing was happier around 95-100 kmh. This was a gen 1 klr (2004).
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  15. 3legs

    3legs Real men ride sidecars

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    Thanks Rockman. I may need to rethink which bike to get. Sitting on 95 kmh on the Stuart highway or going across the Nullarbor would drive me nuts. I wish the bloody Japs would build a chain driven, carby 900cc 80+HP 4 stroke dual sport that weighs less than 190kg. Anyone got a 600 bandit. I should try and dual sport one of those. Oh well back to the drawing board.

    Cheers

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    Wee Strom, Versys 650 etc. Mid capacity twins. A bit more to the subframe but enough power. Plenty about.
  18. 3legs

    3legs Real men ride sidecars

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    Hi SBSP. I did think of that model and I know where I can get one for around $3600 with 56000 km (if it hasn't already been sold). I have to admit I'm tempted but it's still a reasonably heavy bike ( although I could probably lighten it by 10kg fairly easily). I might have to get in touch with Ray (Tripod tiger) and see what he thinks.

    Cheers

    3legs
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    wednesday 16/8/17 me and 2 others (not klr) are heading Brisbane - mt dare - across the simpson to birdsville then brisbane so all packed.. ... the blue bag has 10 day packs of food plus a couple of spare things . pasta, soup, bars, trail snacks, tuna, tea bags, sugar etc for everyday..camping gear, cloths, but only the bare minimum of gear... the heavier tins of spag plus 4-5 days food will be eaten before the desert also the 3lt camel pack is in the bag... the small army cam bag will have the food for each day so i don't have to get into the big bag...

    Each black bag has a spare tube in the bottom, 10lt fuel, wet weather gear and a couple of other things.... all good to go.. leaving Mt Dare to cross the simpson i will have 44lt of fuel, 13.5 lt water 4 days food etc etc.

    new bash plate, tool tube, crash bars, welded the steel foot pegs to the frame (with a 10mm spacer in between), big pad for stand, gps wired up, ultra heavy duty tubes, rim locks, new 606 dunlops plus spare back to change before we head back across the desert.. etc etc etc
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  20. Checkmate3

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    Wow!
    That's a big load. The old girl must be getting over the 260kg with that onboard.
    Glad I'm not going to be picking it up!
    Best of luck with your trip (from another KLR rider).

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