Australian Safari 2009 - Bring It On !!

Discussion in 'Australia' started by Trang, Sep 3, 2008.

  1. Trang

    Trang ... 2nd last to the Sweep

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    COUNTDOWN TIMER:
    http://www.timeanddate.com/counters/fullscreen.html?mode=m&year=2009&month=08&day=01&p0=196


    LINKS

    Australasian Safari
    http://www.australiansafari.com.au/

    Other Navigational Events
    www.condo750.com.au
    www.yilgarnrallye.com.au



    2008 Australian Safari
    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=283399

    Safari bike pics - past & present:
    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=266100

    2009 Australian Safari Support Contacts
    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=394064



    OTHER NAVIGATIONAL EVENTS:

    Condo 750 - 2006
    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=131887

    Condo 750 - 2007
    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=220092

    Condo 750 - 2008
    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=306565

    Condo 750 - 2009
    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=380805

    Yilgarn Rallye - 2009
    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=329746



    ADV'ERS IN SAFARI 09:
    (PM me with details and i'll update this section)






    OK SafariBerg,
    What do we need to do?
    - Bike
    - Gear
    - Spares
    - Daily Maintenance
    - $$$ for the event
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  2. SafariBerg

    SafariBerg Oz Safari Addict

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    send Justin an email telling him you WILL be a starter for 2009
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  3. Trang

    Trang ... 2nd last to the Sweep

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    ooohhh...committment
    :shog ... and so far away.




    Do you think there is some doubt on the running of next years event, in which case, are you are suggesting that the more people that express an interest at this stage will provide octagon more reasoning to start organising the 2009 event?
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  4. AllOrds

    AllOrds -------------

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    Panic stations already?
    Its only a week after the event, were the numbers down on last year?
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  5. Crofty

    Crofty Life's a Garden, DIG IT!

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    need to know what sorta $$$ we are talking to do it? Not the bike and spares but entering etc. Do they provide logistics if you don't have a back up vehicle?
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  6. MymoJoe

    MymoJoe Ride Ride Ride

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    would bring it back to the East Coast or at least the Centre of Australia... and make it more of a Safari than an Enduro....

    The Safari is loosing it heritage.

    IMO of course..
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  7. SafariBerg

    SafariBerg Oz Safari Addict

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    Central Australia....yes the Tanami etc is the goods.

    Not sure why East Coast is any better than the west coast, there was lots of different terrain this year, most of it damn hard !

    It was no enduro this year 2700+ km of Selective competitative stages, up to 235km long, lots of them over 100km long, lots of tricky navigation

    how so ?
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  8. SafariBerg

    SafariBerg Oz Safari Addict

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    its about $10k-$12k to do the event ex-Perth + bike & bike set up costs

    if you dont have back up yourself hook up with others and share, many riders do this.
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  9. Trang

    Trang ... 2nd last to the Sweep

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    From: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7769860#post7769860


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  10. guymcfly

    guymcfly Banned

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    Just a point here Garry, and for all others...I used my own car/borrowed trailer (thanx Andrew), friend came as a mech (thanx again Andrew), ...

    and probably bought it on on more like 8...I wasn't really trying to do it on the cheap, I actually wanted to do it more off my own back so to speak...

    and as people who know me, its more in my nature to do things this way.

    The bottom line, careful planning, and do start planning now. It takes a lot to get it happening.
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  11. guymcfly

    guymcfly Banned

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    Of course I had the bike, and usually have a new bike almost every year so that is not counted as a Safari cost from my pov...
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  12. vbenedic

    vbenedic Rider

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    How offers hire pakages?
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  13. PPiA

    PPiA Pete

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    Would be interested in splitting costs of getting there from NSW and a mechanic. Preferably someone that knows a 660 Rally.
    I'm one of these blokes that needs to do it as cheap as possible, so I'm happy to sleep in a swag getting there and back, but I learned in the Dakar that trying to do your own service work as well, sucks.
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  14. guymcfly

    guymcfly Banned

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    I know GHR do, and there was the bunch listed who offered the 650 BMW...but I didn't see any on the Safari so I think the price may have been prohibitive.

    That pretty much what we (and many others) did. Had a pull out awning on the Triton, and the night it rained we slept under our swags with a cheap blue poly tarp over them...no problems at all.

    I noticed that a tent accomadation option was offered but only saw one get put up...I think the type of person who is drawn to the event likes the who camp routine anyway.

    Its a really good event to be involved in...not just for the riding. The whole atmosphere is really unique, and it totally distances you from the rest of your life. A week on the Safari, and you look back thinking, "was that only 7 days ago!!! It feels like years have past" and thats a great thing. For the short time you are on it, your life becomes that much richer for having done it.
    It's money very well spent.
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  15. InertiaDRZ400

    InertiaDRZ400 AusSafari Addict

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    If anyone is interested and willing to make a commitment to do the safari reasonably early then im sure there is a few of us on the west coast that could help with stuff, from carrying gear to people or parts. Ill be revising my setup for next year and if all works out i may have a spare seat or two. Also the more poeple that run the same bike the less spares you have to buy.

    So if anyone that is contemplating doing this amazing event then give me or pretty much anyone else that is doing it next year a call/pm and start the organising. It does take a lot of effort to organise but as far as im concerned it is worth more than you could ever spend!

    As Guy said, once the first timer starts counting down to your very own start time on the very fist transport section, you will be totally absorbed into the atmosphere and lifestyle of the safari. It has to be experienced!
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  16. rallye

    rallye Been here awhile

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    were you there this year to confirm this ???
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  17. Oz Safari/Safari Oz

    Oz Safari/Safari Oz n00b

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    We have to say we are knackered too, what a wonderful week we had as being part of the Australasian Safari. Hope you enjoyed the last stage, this was through 3 of our favourite swamps!! On the day we set this, with an exceptionally good friend of ours we giggled a lot........ Hope, this was an enjoyable event for all of you, we all had a ball.

    Any comments you have positive or negative will all be taken on board, obviously positive is more appreciated.... Any photos or video footage of the last stage would be more than welcome, because we were on start and only got to hear about them over the radio.

    Final question: do you want it tougher or more navigationally challenging, or was it just right?:evil

    Can't wait to see you all next year.

    Well done to everyone who entered, and a big thank you to all who assisted.




    The Enthusiastic Yorkshireman and his wifey (currently looking for interesting swamps!!):lol3
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  18. JayBo1

    JayBo1 Long timer

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    Hmmm. It took me about 1.5 hours to de-water my bike and I very almost didn't make it to the finish of the biggest challenge of my life! Do I want it tougher??? Are you kidding?? Any photo's of the last day with me in them I would rather forget.

    You two were great. The atmosphere you brought to the event was fantastic and I look forward to seeing you again next year.
    JayBo #33
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  19. GodSilla

    GodSilla I did that.

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    Does the Safari have a "Tourist" or spectator type category? I'm too old, soft and unskilled to attempt the event itself (like many others), but I'd love to follow it on my own bike. I believe there is something similar for the Dakar, where wannabe over-the-hill types like myself can take an easier route and spectate .

    Alternatively, I have been a flaggie at circuit racing and wouldn't mind a job on a corner somewhere with a radio, as long as I got to ride my own bike.

    Thoughts?
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  20. SafariBerg

    SafariBerg Oz Safari Addict

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    The terrain this year coupled with the long selectives was tough, thanks :thumbup it made it an acheivement.

    A little tougher in places would be good, it is supposed to be hard, thats the Dakar's selling point and also the Safari's back in the Wynne's days etc.

    The navigation was tricky at times, but only at times. The degree of navigation difficulty only made a minor overall time difference between the good navigators and the poor ones and not to the extent that it affected greatly overall Leg times.

    Therefore average speed was more important.

    I reckon the navigation could/should be tougher.

    There was still some limited sections of bunting and arrows etc, this made the event flow BUT it dropped the navigation challenge level. Those areas should have been a real challenge to get through and if some got lost, so be it.

    The Dakar has had about a 60% dnf rate, I reckon 30-40% for the Safari would indicate the right level of toughness. This year there was 7 dnf's from 51 starters (14%) ('07 was 15%), mostly from injury :cry, mechanical dnf or other should be expected for an event like this.

    Ditto re navigation there has to be a REAL chance of the leaders stuffing it up to the extent that it affects the chance of a win i.e. risk of 60+ mins of lost nav time accumulated during the event.

    This then in turn makes fuel usage a critical item as well, you get lost you use more fuel trying to back track etc.

    As Jaybo mentioned the Road section times were a worry and a bit too tight this year forcing many to push the legal speed limits.

    I would like to see the Marathon day be a true one like was first proposed, 20mins rider only service in parc ferme with what was carried for the day only (except oil & fuel).



    Oz Safari/Safari Oz, Justin et al, it was a great event this year, thoroughly enjoyed it, have already bought a bike and tyres etc for next year :evil

    '09 Cant wait :wings :wings bring it on :rayof :rayof
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