Autocom bike to bike.

Discussion in 'Equipment' started by JohnnyTh, Apr 7, 2012.

  1. JohnnyTh

    JohnnyTh Been here awhile

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    I have a pair of autocom active pluss, a few years old. And now looking into buying 2 kenwood 3301 radio so i can use them bike to bike. Anyone have any experience with this?

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    we use motorola frs radios with our autocom/starcom.... work well up to about 1 mile... fine for the riding we do, but i'm also curious to know how much better the kenwood radios really are... they seem to be much more expensive
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    I use a kenwood tk3201 as part of an autocom system and have found it to be a solid product.audio is strong and when using it for bike to bike, its the best at vox sending and recieving then anything else other guysI know were using, I power mine off the bike by connecting it to an autocom super pro avi which is switched on at ignition which in turn is bluetooth connected to a zumo 550 and smartphone.The set up suits my needs as I have additional capacity to add music or a second head set for the rear seat.One problem you may find a bit of a pain is when you have several different types of radios to be tuned in to the set frequency.For me the best way is for one guy to set up all the radios so that at least one guy knows whats working and whats causing issues.But if you want quality vox, kenwood to kenwood is the best bet.You should also retain the option of ptt when sending or recieving to radios with bad quality vox or limited rangeThe ability to shut off vox is a lifesaver for me as the other guys system may not be set up as well as yours.
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  5. JohnnyTh

    JohnnyTh Been here awhile

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    Thsnk. Great info.
    Im buying 2 kenwood rasios. One for me and one for my wife. So bad radios wont be a issue. I only have a active pluss intercom so cant power the radio with the autocom but looks like the is a option for powering directly from the bike
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  6. RocketMoto

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    Our TK3300's are pre-programmed and ready to go with Autocom's preferred frequencies, but we can custom program them, as well at no additional charge. The AC-2342 bike power adapter is the way to go - flip on the ignition switch and the Autocom and Kenwood are powered up and ready to go.

    For best transmit range and enhanced receive, you may want to consider an external stealth blade antenna kit, as well.
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  7. JohnnyTh

    JohnnyTh Been here awhile

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    I have the older active pluss autocom system. Can the radios be powered off the bike?
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    RocketMoto 2 Many Motersikles

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    Definitely. The Active Plus puts out 9 volts on the gray bike-to-bike connector, where the newer Autocom Logic and Super Pro Automatic put out 12 volts. Part 1402 is the proper power adapter for your Active Plus.
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    I forgot the model number, but I have a Kenwood that is powered by my Autocom system. If works very well, much better than the consumer motorolas I used previously.

    My Autocom always has my iPod contested, plus has a Zumo 660 that can do voice directions and music if I like. I can use the bluetooth on the 660 for the phone (I rarely do that) and can talk to passenger on e back. It all works well. My Autocom is an Avi pro (I think is the name) but Ive done similar with a more bid Autocom that I have.

    Most riders I know use channel 7 sub 14. If we all use that frequency then eventually we'll all be able to talk with other riders.

    ..Tom
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    JohnnyTh Been here awhile

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    Today i recived my new tk-3301 kenwood radios. And i did a range test using them hand held only. And the test was impresive. Close to 4km in hilly terain.

    But i cant get the VOX working. Autocom said i needed cable 2369 to conect the radios. Bought that and set it All up today. But i could npt get the VOX function on the 3301 working. I could hear the radios beep in my helmet headset but the radio did not work like it should when conected to a headset.


    Anyone else had this problem

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    In my setups, the Autocom handles the VOX function. It detects your voice and keys the radio to transmit. The radio itself may have an internal feature for VOX, but it wouldn't be necessary for the Autocom function. At least that's how I understand it. If you could provide some more details about what's happening/not--maybe we could help you out. I know on my SuperPro AVi there's a light that comes on when the unit's VOX is activated. I can hear my own voice coming through my speakers. And then the radio will light up a red LED to indicate transmit. If all those things are happening, for instance, and you hear nothing on another radio tuned to the same channel with the volume turned up, then it could be a faulty input connection for the mic audio.
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    Nothing happens. I only have audio from my helmet speekers, when uperating the radios settings. The radio dont transmitt when i speek. No red light or anything. Even if i push the ptt key it wont try to send. If i unplug the autocom evrything works normaly.
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    Be sure that you have the VOX function in the radio turned OFF. As noted above, VOX transmit is handled by the Active plus.

    If VOX isn't working and you have VOX switched OFF in the radio, these are the following places that could be at fault:


    • Radio's speaker/mic connection faulty. Try a second radio to isolate.
    • 2369 Autocom lead faulty. Try a second lead if you have one.
    • 2356 lead (with the gray connector( from the Active Plus is faulty, or connecter not fully seated on the Active Plus circuit board
    • Faulty Active Plus circuit board
    If you can try any of these things, above that will help you sort out what's going on. You should also call whomever you purchased the radios and 2369 lead from. If that's us, be sure to give a call and we'll help you sort it straight away, 877.533.4245, 9AM-6PM eastern time.
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    JohnnyTh Been here awhile

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    Thank you for your help. Sadly i did npt buy it from you. But i will next time. Even if i live in norway.

    I did some more testing today and when i conect evrything and turn the 3301 on it says confirm, then after 5 sec it beeps. I can then hear incomming audio. Ifq i leave evrything on and conect the grey cable to the autocom the 3301 will start sending, led turn red and others can hear me. But it will not stop sending.

    I have tried 2 diferent 3301. 2 bikes with autocom and 3 helmets. I suspect now that its the 3301's vox thats the problem.
    I thought i had to activate that but i thought i did not get it working. How can i tell if that is no. I do not have a headset exept for the autcom headsets. And cant figure out how to turn it off if its on

    Thank you

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    the most frustrating part sometimes is the setting up of the radio.bike powered is preferable for vox as battery drain will impact on your usage .
    1.press and hold the call key while turning the radio on and continue to hold the call key until the led lights orange and the radio announces "vox"if you already have a confirm for vox on your radio you will also need to set the vox gain level up(call) or down(monitor) save it in less then 5 seconds by pressing the ptt button.turn the radio off and on again to activate vox. Apologies if I`m stating the obvious but thats how I set my kenwood up.To set up vox your head and mike sets must be connected to the radios..If you are then connecting to an autocom system that will control your vox , you must deactivate the vox fuction on your radio by turning the vox gain level to off.
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    JohnnyTh Been here awhile

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    Nothing here is obvious:) im a total noob here.

    When i tried to set up my vox on the kenwood nothing of what the manual sid happend. There was no beep when using key 2 and it did not read out the vox level.
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    well lets see now.
    1.radio has power-check
    2.radio channel is set-check
    3.radio transmits and recieves using ptt-check
    follow the manual guidlines for kenwood 3301 to set up vox with approved headset connected -check
    This is where patience with a capital P is your friend,because it may/could take numerous attempts to set the radio for vox.If memory serves me I read the manual for my radio a kenwood tk-3201 as often as was necessery befor I finally figured out what to do. I`ve just read the manual for your model and the proceedure is basically the same.keep trying
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    My wife and I use Icom GM-21's and the system works very nicely on the Active 7 Plus. Different radio (just different interface cable), but same setup.
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    I dont think vox on radio have been activated. As when i follow the instructions in the manual to activate vox nothing of what is suposed to happen with a headset conected happens.

    With power off and pushing key 1 radio anounced self, not a beep. Then no matter what i do it go to normal mode after 5 sec.
    Then i can hear audio from the radio but cant transmitt anything.

    Strange this is that if i conect the grey cable with power on, on bouth kenwood and autocom the kenwood starts transmitting and sound is transmitted from my hel et mic to other radio. But it will not stop sending then.
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    While I'm not certain, I have a very strong intuition that you should not do this repeatedly. It may result in damage to the radio. What I'm saying is, only make the connections with the radio turned off. I use ham radio gear and the manuals say do not have the radio turned on while inserting speaker/mic connectors--which is essentially what the Autocom plugs are to the radio.
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