Aviation MegaThread!!!!

Discussion in 'Shiny Things' started by EvilGenius, Jan 1, 2009.

  1. PunkinHead

    PunkinHead Moobless Adventurer

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    Pretty low once you've bought it - it's a bone simple plane. The problem is their price is out of sync with what it is. Between the Boomers having nostalgia and the growing population of Sport Pilots (old folks loosing their medicals), the price is through the roof.
  2. Gernick

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    That I have noticed.
  3. ADK

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    30-40 grand. On the other hand 152s can be had for 15 grand, but you need a pilot's license .
  4. Gernick

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    True. But a 152 ain't a Cub. Not that I have any problems with a 152. :D
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    I was wondering why the Aviat Husky was a 200K plane then saw how much old Super Cubs were going for. :eek1:lol3
  6. chazbird

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    Does the Citabria count qualify as a light sport aircraft?
  7. scottfromboston

    scottfromboston Turd poker.

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    Negative. Some (possibly all) Champs do, though.

    Honestly, at this point, the SP has limited value unless you have medical concerns, and if you play your cards right it's not much more $$ to get a Private cert vice a SP cert. IMO.
  8. PunkinHead

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    Nope. Too heavy. As an aside, I watched one ground loop just last week.
  9. scottfromboston

    scottfromboston Turd poker.

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    I hope everyone is OK!

    You have to be working hard to accomplish that, IMO. Citabrias are relatively easy tailwheel airplanes.
  10. PunkinHead

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    Student pilot, 15 knot gusting 19 crosswind.
  11. No False Enthusiasm

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    What's the max allowable crosswind for a Citabra?

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  12. scottfromboston

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    17kt (direct/component).

    I stay on the ground on those days.
  13. PunkinHead

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    I don't really care for the term "allowable". What's published in the POH is "max demonstrated" which just means that's the largest crosswind the test pilots encountered. What it really boils down to is how much rudder authority the plane has and how competent the pilot is. And in the case of a tailwheel, grass vs. hard surface comes into play.

    I've flown this particular Citabria and I'd have been perfectly comfortable with 15G19 crosswind on grass. A little less comfortable on pavement, but it wouldn't concern me a whole lot. The Citabria (and the Champ it evolved from) have a lot of rudder authority. I've flown Champs and J3's on 19G27 crosswind days on grass. Exciting, and probably not real bright in retrospect, but the planes have enough rudder for it.
  14. chazbird

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    I wonder if anyone is familiar with the Taylorcraft L2? My friend had one - tandem seating, plexiglass roof and doors, with the Continental C65. I suppose it would pass the LSA requirement, too. I flew it a couple of times, very very nice flying, extremely light control forces but well balanced - the whole thing was like a slow motion dragon-fly. I had disposed of my Aeronca Champ the two years before, and the L2 flew much better. If it had the C90 in it, like I was "lucky" to have the Chump, it would have been amazing. I wonder if there are many L2's left?
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    How many kts before you can land a champ on a very very wide short runway? (just have to dodge the marker lights) :)
  16. PunkinHead

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    My wife and I once flew a J3 Cub into Grissom Air Reserve Base (KGUS) which has a 12501X200 ft runway. Wouldn't take much wind to allow takeoff/landing across it.
  17. chazbird

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    Probably most pilots, could, or should be able, to land a (empty) 172 in 200 ft (like that width of a runway mentioned) with a moderate headwind - just not a 172 I owned. While not having any TO of the STOL, and being anemic at altitude, the 172 is really rather an underrated airplane. It is surprisingly fun and is arguably the most docile and friendly handling airplane ever built (so far?).
  18. No False Enthusiasm

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    I forgot the term was "demonstrated"... it's been a while.

    Of course, the capabilities demonstrated by a test pilot are not comparable to the abilities of a student.

    One version of the 172 I was fond of was the 172XP... as I recall 195 hp and CS prop.

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    A nice plane a 172 on steroids.

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  20. chazbird

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    It wasn't Cessna's fault but the early production run with those engines (6 cyl Continental IO-360's whatever dash series) were, to be kind, basically lemons. (another version with a higher prop speed eked out 210 hp, but that put it in the "high performance category). At the time I was actually warned by a sage old timer who had pilots license #300 or something, signed by one of the Wrights not to get in one. I figured if that's what he thought then I ought to trust him. In later years I flew one and, well, I'm here. It does bring up some of the other not so well known versions of the old types that are really underrated: The Piper Dakota comes to mind. Easily does everything a 182 does, is probably cheaper and not prone to tweaking the engine mounts.