Aviation MegaThread!!!!

Discussion in 'Shiny Things' started by EvilGenius, Jan 1, 2009.

  1. chazbird

    chazbird Long timer

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    Maybe Boeing was satisfied with the B47, B52, KC135, Chinook, ET AL, programs? Not exactly small scale stuff and I am sure they paid well enough, maybe eking out a few dollars more than, say Vought's A7/A8, the Republic 105....
  2. Gernick

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    What's the cost of ownership for a Piper J-3 Cub?
  3. slideways

    slideways permanent ex-pat

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    I rent a Cessna 152 for $89/hr wet.
  4. PunkinHead

    PunkinHead Moobless Adventurer

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    Pretty low once you've bought it - it's a bone simple plane. The problem is their price is out of sync with what it is. Between the Boomers having nostalgia and the growing population of Sport Pilots (old folks loosing their medicals), the price is through the roof.
  5. Gernick

    Gernick Long timer

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    That I have noticed.
  6. ADK

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    30-40 grand. On the other hand 152s can be had for 15 grand, but you need a pilot's license .
  7. Gernick

    Gernick Long timer

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    True. But a 152 ain't a Cub. Not that I have any problems with a 152. :D
  8. HighAlpineDrifter

    HighAlpineDrifter Long timer

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    I was wondering why the Aviat Husky was a 200K plane then saw how much old Super Cubs were going for. :eek1:lol3
  9. chazbird

    chazbird Long timer

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    Does the Citabria count qualify as a light sport aircraft?
  10. scottfromboston

    scottfromboston Turd poker.

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    Negative. Some (possibly all) Champs do, though.

    Honestly, at this point, the SP has limited value unless you have medical concerns, and if you play your cards right it's not much more $$ to get a Private cert vice a SP cert. IMO.
  11. PunkinHead

    PunkinHead Moobless Adventurer

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    Nope. Too heavy. As an aside, I watched one ground loop just last week.
  12. scottfromboston

    scottfromboston Turd poker.

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    I hope everyone is OK!

    You have to be working hard to accomplish that, IMO. Citabrias are relatively easy tailwheel airplanes.
  13. PunkinHead

    PunkinHead Moobless Adventurer

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    Student pilot, 15 knot gusting 19 crosswind.
  14. No False Enthusiasm

    No False Enthusiasm a quiet adventurer

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    What's the max allowable crosswind for a Citabra?

    NFE
  15. scottfromboston

    scottfromboston Turd poker.

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    17kt (direct/component).

    I stay on the ground on those days.
  16. PunkinHead

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    I don't really care for the term "allowable". What's published in the POH is "max demonstrated" which just means that's the largest crosswind the test pilots encountered. What it really boils down to is how much rudder authority the plane has and how competent the pilot is. And in the case of a tailwheel, grass vs. hard surface comes into play.

    I've flown this particular Citabria and I'd have been perfectly comfortable with 15G19 crosswind on grass. A little less comfortable on pavement, but it wouldn't concern me a whole lot. The Citabria (and the Champ it evolved from) have a lot of rudder authority. I've flown Champs and J3's on 19G27 crosswind days on grass. Exciting, and probably not real bright in retrospect, but the planes have enough rudder for it.
  17. chazbird

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    I wonder if anyone is familiar with the Taylorcraft L2? My friend had one - tandem seating, plexiglass roof and doors, with the Continental C65. I suppose it would pass the LSA requirement, too. I flew it a couple of times, very very nice flying, extremely light control forces but well balanced - the whole thing was like a slow motion dragon-fly. I had disposed of my Aeronca Champ the two years before, and the L2 flew much better. If it had the C90 in it, like I was "lucky" to have the Chump, it would have been amazing. I wonder if there are many L2's left?
  18. XR650L_Dave

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    How many kts before you can land a champ on a very very wide short runway? (just have to dodge the marker lights) :)
  19. PunkinHead

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    My wife and I once flew a J3 Cub into Grissom Air Reserve Base (KGUS) which has a 12501X200 ft runway. Wouldn't take much wind to allow takeoff/landing across it.
  20. chazbird

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    Probably most pilots, could, or should be able, to land a (empty) 172 in 200 ft (like that width of a runway mentioned) with a moderate headwind - just not a 172 I owned. While not having any TO of the STOL, and being anemic at altitude, the 172 is really rather an underrated airplane. It is surprisingly fun and is arguably the most docile and friendly handling airplane ever built (so far?).