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Discussion in 'Shiny Things' started by MudWalker, Dec 9, 2013.
Too big, I'm done with SUV's. Want something that can at least approach 30mpg's.
That's actually not true. The 428ix, 435ix, and 335ix you can still get with a $0 Manual Transmission option. It doesn't appear the the 320 and 328 are coming to the USA with that option. Which is absurd for the 180hp 320 model.
What are these models..........................? I was looking at 3 series sedans.
Well the BMW 4 series is the 3 series but in 2 door coupe form.
The 335ix is the AWD 3 series sedan with the 3.0 Twin turbo motor and you can get that with a 6 speed manual.
Take home a dozen Dirty John's dirt sticks for dinner and give SWMBO a kiss on the cheek from me.
I drive an Audi S5 with a 6 speed manual. Mine is the V8 version. A year ago they came out with the supercharged V6 model, which is both more fuel efficient and a little faster. Throw some snow tires on and it is a blast to drive in the snow. I will need to get something with four doors pretty soon and I am debating whether to get another car with a manual transmission (my wife can't drive a manual, which is both a blessing and a curse). When it comes to manual transmissions our options seem to diminish every year due to a combination of technology, efficiency, and demand. There is nothing quite like rowing your own gears.
AWD + MT = Subaru, IMHO.
The Japanese cars tend to be the logical choices. The Germans, these days, are emotionally driven purchases. English--well, "English," as they're Indian now--are also emotional choices, but people are honest about that.
US cars? Hit and miss. Too bad, the US could have always been the world standard, but our business practices had people chasing returns and not building decent cars and brands.
It is annoying that sporty wagons are so hard to come by. I want one for the wife as well. She really wants a stick. I prefer RWD, comfy, decent interior, and not totally boring (we are in FL, snow doesn't happen). There are cool, big, expensive, high-hp wagons like the CTS-V wagon with manual gearboxes, but really hard to find something mid-size, sporty, manual, and decent on gas. Not sure what we'll end up with. Something like an X1 manual or 3-series wagon with sport suspension and a manual would be quite nice.
My wife's 9-5 Aero wagon with manual transmission....
Of course they don't make them any more....
Look for an '05-'09 Subaru Legacy GT or Outback XT. Plenty sporty, and manual transmissions available.
Of course...Subarus are likely rare in Florida. Dime a dozen, here in the PNW.
Standard Seattle CL ad: "2008 Outback XT, 190k miles, ice cold AC, $21k"
Until 2002 (year the WRX hit the U.S.) the only Subaru's you'd see in FLA were people that just moved down from New England, and the occasional 2.5 RS Impreza.
Subaru is the Obvious AWD car, followed by Audis.
My first choice would be a Subaru (cheapest to buy, own and maintain), but if I were shopping Audi I'd choose the 335ix over the A4. My Dad and his wife have had several Audis (90s, S4, A4s) and my Sister had a TT for awhile, and those cars always needed something! Girlfriend has a Z4 and several friends have E46 and E90s and they're much more relaible cars than those Audis ever were.
You're really in a tough spot with the Manual. There's some cool AWD cars out there G37x, Lexus IS 250 AWD, E350 4matic, Chrysler 300 AWD, Ford Taurus AWD, but they're ALL Automatics!
That is a fine car you drive, more sport than we need, but I've looked and I like and I lust. Our A4 with snows was just absolutely rock solid in the bad weather.......zero traction issues, no surprises, it was a great ride.
But really,.......................$450 for rear pads and rotors (installed)?
A new A4 sedan sits on top of my wish list....................it's the least practical but most desirable.
Mazda, can you hear me? Make me the car we want! A 6-speed wagon with awd and a 6-speed manual!
This is so true. We drove the shit out of my Avalon yesterday, loaded of with kids and ski gear, we plowed through bad roads with complete confidence. I have a love hate thing with this car................it works great but it sucks, know what I mean? Germans make better rides. Japs make cars that work with no complaints for 15 years.
I always thought a Carrera 4 would make a nice winter beater....
I like the new Infinity Q50?
Nope,...........................think car with awd. You know like a Subaru legacy with a manual.
Now the trick is, name another manufacturer that offers this combination. 10 yeas ago there were others, now, not so much.
Dude wants a CAR!!! Not a Toyota Jeep. Read people!
Stick shift CAR!!