Baja 10 day trip route review

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  1. Grinder

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    Hey all,

    I've put together a 10 day route looping down as far south as La Purisima, trying to stay off the main roads. I've attached a GPX file - let me know what you think. Any suggestions would be great. I'm planning to convert it to an image file so it will load on my Montana without having to deal with tracks.

    I have a few "options" which should be fun time permitting.

    Anyway, please let me know your thoughts.

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  2. Strong Bad

    Strong Bad Former World's Foremost Authority

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    Pretty commonly used routes, not seeing any issues. Expect storm damage.
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    Thanks for looking. We are looking for relatively easy navigation and since we're coming from far it made sense to keep ambition in check somewhat.

    We're going in October so I imagine some of the storm issues may clear up.

    Has anyone done Mano pass? I haven't been that way, usually go through the parque so this will be new for me.
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    Mano Pass,
    I've eyeballed that route from Guadelupe Hot Springs to Mano Pass for years---got the track from some dude who did it solo on an XR650-----------but that happened many years ago. I've attempted it several times. Never have made it thru----------and I've kept my ears open for someone that did------but have never heard of anyone making it. Whatever paths--or roads--------or deep sand routes have been completely obliterated and the super deep sand always did me in. Looking at all that on google earth--you see nothing.

    Hope you can do it. I've been on most of your tracks--------some expert level (pro trials and offroad) friends of mine rode that green door trail this year-------I went around---------and it about did them in. I knew it was over my head and didn't try it.
    Too bad the "green door" is gone-------someone stole it and replaced it with a big tire. I call it the "big black tire" trail now:D

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    I admit this one has me worried a bit. There is fuel range and the unknown. We're pretty skilled and have good equipment (ktm 500s) but were on the first of many days... part of me wants to run through la rumarosa and down through Laguna Hansen. It's a known quantity for us. We're aiming for Mikes on night 1 of el Coyote. Any other route options?

    There is the bail out that goes to Hwy 5, but that means lots of pavement to get to mikes.

    Ideas?
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    I have a zillion !!!!
    Wouldn't know where to start.

    You've got plenty laid out------probably more than you can do in 10 days.

    I've got a buddy "Jonz" who tackles anything down there------never asked him--but never heard him talk about Mano Pass.
    If he reads this-----he'll be all over it.
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    Thanks Mark, I'm looking for alternatives around Mano pass. I have the run through the parque as a plan b.

    I've seen Jonz's GPX tracks. I forget where I got them but since we've traded track before it might be from you.

    One comment I heard is that the narco traffic through Mano pass or Guadalupe could be there at night. No idea if that's the case. Of course no one plans to ride at night.... but you know....
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    As SB says, your routes are generally used by others. When he talks of storm damage, it's not necessarily storms while you are actually riding but damage from storms (sometimes severe washouts, etc.) caused by storms that haven't been repaired by the time you are riding. Always got to be careful.

    What you are calling El Mano Pass is actually what's known as the Summit. El Mano Pass is directly west of the start of your Day 1 Part 3 track. I haven't been over either in a few years but they can both be rather rough and rocky, but certainly doable on the KTM's. And yes, there can be some pretty deep sand coming into either, but shouldn't be a problem for good riders on the KTMs.

    Day 2 you're missing some good coastal riding by taking the hwy all the way down to San Quintin. Cut over west and ride some beach on the way down south.

    Day 3 is going to be a long one for you if you're cutting inland south of San Quintin then crossing the hwy before Catavina and heading all the way to the west coast and continuing on south and east to Bay of LA.

    Day 5 is going to be a pretty short day. You'll have time for a nice late breakfast in San Ignacio for that day.

    Be careful between La Purisma and Hwy 1 (Day 6). That's where a lot of rocky washouts can occur!
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    How did you know where the Pemex stations are?
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  10. Grinder

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    That's for reviewing this. I will make some adjustments.

    Where can I drop onto the beach on day 2?

    Day 3 does look quite long. I'm thinking we might be able to go a bit further south on day 2 or somehow break day 3. We could skip the later tracks and ride the road into BoLA. If you have a suggestion on a place to stay that would be excellent.

    I ride the la purisima before. Your warning are absolutely correct. We fortunately slowed down before a cattle guard just in time to notice a 4' gap.
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  11. Grinder

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    It's a collection on data from somewhere. I'd love to credit the source but I'm not sure. I know some were from the Baja 1000 race org and Bigdog. I marked a bunch too when I was down there.
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    Attico, lots of options for getting to the Pacific Beach. Sent you a PM...
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  13. jonz

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    I haven't done El Mano - this is a good reminder to give it a try. If the OP does it, post up. The section of Calamajue and Window Rock marked is fun once except for the race course whoop hell parts. I think SB mentioned it but it bears repeating - hurricane/tropical storm Lidia whacked the south end of Baja pretty good. I saw one video of the arroyo running through Loreto and it was full of water so you can bet there will be a lot of damage riding through the Commondu's. Worse south of there. Give it a shot (this is ADVENTURE rider after all) but plan on it being slower than it has in past reports. I have a friend in BOLA and it didn't seem to be that bad there. Riding south of BOLA, stop in and say hi to Pancho at San Rafael and buy a beer or two if he has them. I like San Francisquito - it's a little dilapidated and some think too many $$$ but I wouldn't miss it. Contact them via Facebook https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=leonel peralta arce and let them now when and how many.

    I don't know how far north the heavy rain got. Maybe check out Baja Nomads for the latest intel.
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    If you are camping off the bikes I would suggest that you guys spend the night at San Borja Mission, on the way to Bahia de Los Angeles from the Pacific coast. Baja is a blank canvas where you can connect the dots (gas stations and food) so any route you pick will be a good one. Any road that shows up on a AAA map will be maintained (dirt or paved) or at least be doable on a KTM. When you use the Baja Almanac or E32 gps maps then you will see roads/ trails that haven't been used in a lifetime.
    Ive ridden and travelled down there for years and my best trips are the ones where we get away from the regular travel routes that everybody does. You get to see stuff not posted on the internet . If this is your first trip then stick with the known routes and get a feel for it. Its hard to have a bad trip down there. have fun
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    Thanks Dirt. We're going to be hotelling so that somewhat limits our itinerary. We will have emergency stuff in case we need to make an unplanned overnight.

    We've been to Baja 4 times now and we love riding there. San Borja is definitely a special place. The first time we went down we spent some time there and got a tour with the young guy, I've forgotten his name, and I left him some camera and computer stuff he seems to be keen on.

    I think we're going to try quite a few of the routes we haven't done in the past but since we're down for 10 days we are a bit limited in where we can go. GalacticGS, Jonz, and BigDog provided many tracks I didn't have which will be super helpful. Lots of advice too. I'll be sure to post my final route with notes in case it helps someone in the future; then I'll post the actual route we followed :lol
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    Hi folks,

    Down to the show strokes...can anyone refer me to a place to park 2 trucks and a trailer near the algadones-yuma crossing? It would be for 2weeks. Willing to pay a reasonable amount if needed.

    Thanks!
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    Wow, that’s amazing, thanks.
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    Well it’s done folks. Some of the routes were amazing. Ended up running about 700 miles of the Baja 1000 route, purely by coincidence.

    The El Mano pass aka the summit just about did us in today. The tracks are really hard to follow. Looks like no ones been up there in a long time. We ran down a trail that wasn’t on our GPS and it got very washed out. We had to double back and ran out of gas. We had to scrounge some gas and head towards Mexicali. When we got the to Pemex calexico was closer than Mike’s sky ranch so being our last night anyway we crossed the border.

    I’ll post up more and some pictures.

    Thanks for all the help and advice.
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  20. superhobie

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    That's awesome! Would love to see more on your effort on that area around El Mano, did some exploring last year out that way but between gas options and challenge of route finding makes for committing riding, was solo on that section. I have visions of staying at Guadalupe Hot springs then ride that route out to Valle T on way South.
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