Baja,,2018

Discussion in 'Pacific Northwet - Where it's green. And wet.' started by peterman, Apr 24, 2017.

  1. TourPros

    TourPros Local wherever I go

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    So I am very interested in this... I have a friend who owns one of the tour bus companies I have been using for a long time who lets me use tour busses for my own enjoyment form time to time. He has one that is registered as a motorhome he will let me use . &x14 trailer. Would be a situation of ride to Red Bluff, CA and pick up bus and trailer and head south. If anyone is interested in Pitching in for fuel then lets talk. Would also have to look at parking locations. Its a rough life why make it rougher

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  2. TourPros

    TourPros Local wherever I go

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    A few more of the rig. I do have a spot in San Diego to park rig as well...

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  3. oldmonkeybut

    oldmonkeybut Digital Emigrant

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    Nice bus! Problem is the Shitty weather. Once you get to Red Bluff you got the worst behind you.
  4. Apple Jam

    Apple Jam Forest Flyer

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    "Its a rough life why make it rougher" he says....


    Because "a motorcyclist"..... is WHO I AM.....not just what I do.
    I'm gonna RIDE, muthafuggas.....!!!!!!!!

    Besides, lordy knows I could sure as hell use some warmer multi-week "helmet therapy" come late January/February.......
  5. TourPros

    TourPros Local wherever I go

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    Ah well some of us have been beaten up a touch on the extra thirty years of riding and enjoy laying our head after a long day of it on a softer rock. I myself will enjoy all the comforts this life can offer me while doing what I love...
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  6. HellsAlien

    HellsAlien a has-been that never-was

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    Bivouacked darned near every southbound rest stop, spent nights leaned up against eucalyptus trees with the visor down, lawn sprinklers swinging over my self and gear. Done with that.

    I-5 is a flat-spotted waste of motorcycle tire, oil and chain.
  7. hansi

    hansi Teurer Abenteurer

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    I feel like I just have not ridden my motorcycle enough.
    Even if it's I 5 and the agricultural wasteland of the central Valley heading to Baja. I am riding my motorcycle .
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  8. peterman

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    I enjoyed my ride down the first time, but it was more expensive, and took me much longer than the van/trailer venue the next year, thank you TBlume!
    Plus, riding all the way takes a bit more energy and uses up some adventure spirit,,california,,meh!
    And sharing the driving down, we made it in 22 hours straight thru, and we all arrived fairly fresh for the riding ahead. Some parts of Norte are cool to see, but I like Baja Sur as my personal preference, so getting there quickly gives me more time to explore the things I want to see,,skip all the AG zone, the wine zone, and the rock zone,,head south.
    Riding down all the way also presents other logistical issues,,you pretty much have to go to the coast to avoid snow, then cut back inland to less than happy trails south,,unless you like beat up worn out freeway. I went 395 down on the bike and had a good ride, but that was early spring, and I encountered no snow at the time.
    December/ January might be a different story.
    Ideally,,you would load up your bike all ready to ride an adventure & pack everthing you need, then have someone deposit you at the border all rested, gassed up, and ready to roll and magically appear ready to let the clutch out and hit it!
    I cannot say that we did not have fun on the drive down in the sphincter,,err, sprinter van.

    I wanna go NOW! somebody take me and my bike to the border please!
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  9. Mr Dual Sport

    Mr Dual Sport Roaming Rambler

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    Getting too and from central CA from Idaho is a huge roll of the dice in February and March on a bike. Hence our reason for driving down. Reason for bringing the camper down is we can bring the dogs and extend our trip up to 2 extra weeks. Trip goes from 3 weeks max boarding them to possibly a 5 week trip.
    We'll still ride almost every day we're there. I want to go fishing and do some other stuff a few days too. Don't need to be on the bike EVERY day.
    Rather spend time getting to know an area well then just pass through. Which when camping off the bikes is what I tend to do, just pass through.
    It'll be fun doing 200 mile loops on unladened bikes.
  10. Apple Jam

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    I agree with you all, and Hansi too.
    Trouble is, I'm an idiot sometimes, and I think this is gonna be one of those times.
    I will NOT be in a hurry. I won't do this unless I get (TAKE !!) adequate time off, like at least three weeks minimum.
    Parts of California are worth visiting on the way down, I have relatives that I rarely see near LA-ish.....unless they come to Oregon.
  11. peterman

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    19.2 ystdy..18.sumpthin today. Hoping the exchange goes our way.
    I wanna ride Loreto to Mission San Javier again (awesome road, thank you Hells!), and this time over to the Pacific Ocean if I do nothing else. Water on both sides and you could see both sides in a day.
    I don't know what's over there, so I wanna go see.

    Bay of LA to san francis-squito thru El Arco is on my list as well.

    When the mental disaster of overpowering winter sets in, the cold and grey, the constant rain, when my hands fail to follow my mental commands due to cold, those are the times and particular instances that age me,,, and wear me down. I do my best refusal in attitude form and self denial, but I know what is happening, ain't no escaping it. Except maybe,,for a brief time, in another land not so far away.
    with really old history!
  12. hansi

    hansi Teurer Abenteurer

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    Living in Cave Junction has the advantage of beeing only a 45 minute ride away from Hwy 1/101 in Cali.
    Either straight down I5 or coastal route to Willits and crossing from there back to I5 will only take us 2 days of riding down to Mexicali. Not really a big deal. I could see the advantage of trailering the bikes if we would live farther north or if we wanted to bring the dogs.
    We did the ride from the Pacific to San Javier/Loreto last year. Awesome ride. Washboard gravel, dirt with lots of baby heads, deep sand and lots of slimy water crossings. Looked like that:
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  13. HellsAlien

    HellsAlien a has-been that never-was

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    Pman, hope you can do that ride!

    From San Javier you can head SSW down to Santo Domingo, or NW over to San Jose Comondu. Gas in San Miguel Comondu just down the road, nice place. From there it is good road SW out to hwy 53, then north to San Juanico...you NEED to go there! You can camp on the beach in town. Or remote camp along miles of beach south of town, off pieces of the old road, just watch out for soft sand/thorns/sand burrs/cows/usual stuff.

    Most maps around the La Purisima area do not show the modern road that bypasses La Purisima to the west. It is a paved road from Las Barrancas, runs north to San Juanico. From that road, you can get to remote beach camp sites along the bluff on the south side of the La Purisima estuary, Estero San Gregorio/Boca San Gregorio. The old road that crosses the river just west of La P is in real bad shape, cannot recommend it for loaded bikes.

    From San Juanico shortest way back is east through La Purisima/San Isidro and then up the escarpment E/NE to hwy 1. Passable, but I can guarantee it will be rough/slow going. Cold beer on your left when you get out to the hwy at El Rosarito, good food too.

    Do it!
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  14. peterman

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    it is currently 48 degrees F in my bilding.
    I could travel a mere ______miles and reverse those numbers,,and 84 > 48,,the new easy math justification for running away to Baja.,,,now all I need is some money!

    Hells,,I looked at the roads you mentioned, and honestly I had no plan other than to hit the west coast and see the water. But you have offered some interesting views,,a loop back to the north looks good. how many rosaritos are there!?geez!
    I saw a spot on one road called El Horno,,like I really wanna go there!:nono
    Thanks agin for input,,you shirley were correct about the "racetrack" up to san javier. I put some of my wife's ashes at the oasis at las parras on the way, would like to scatter some on the oeste pacifico side. My almanac shows those roads, and some smaller ones,,I'd be skeered to ride out there solo on some of them!
    I figger if everyone here gave me their one lucky number, then I could apply them all to the winning lottery ticket,,and we can all go!!!! !
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  15. HellsAlien

    HellsAlien a has-been that never-was

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    I like your new math! 47 is my lucky number.

    A loop north goes along the playa north of San Juanico all the way to San Ignacio. All packed dirt/sand/alkali washboard. To go that way you must be comfortable/skilled with saving the front in sand on a loaded tail-heavy 950. No big barrier dune crossings that way, but there is loose stuff between the hard pan playas. Es muy importante to pick the dry line across the playas, best way is to follow the locals in their beater trucks, follow the most used track, and really pay attention if it looks wet/soft. It is vital to take the low road on the west going north to Laguna San Ignacio. The middle road to the east is totally wasted/destroyed, do not go that way!

    The other loop out is the one I suggested thru La Purisima in post 133. Going that way all you have to deal with is about 35/40 miles of baby heads and destroyed road bed, no sand. That route is part of Baja 1000 too. I expect it to be a mess after that.

    We can go over route details down there and figure out what you can do/what would be fun without becoming vulture food. And yeah, you need to find some to do that loop with you, to take pics!

    El Horno is a rancho place in the middle of 'effen nowhere at the end of muy mallow camino, can't recommend it. If you want to go to a remote rancho there are more rewarding destinations a lot closer to pavimento. The secret is to know which ranchos make goat cheese and fresh tortillas every dia!
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  16. Apple Jam

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    It seems pretty obvious to this mexi-n00b that I'm gonna hafta follow one/all of you once I get to/near the border. I've got some family to visit in South CA, but I don't wanna get stuck with too much highway just because I'm solo and I'll be scared to wander once I get there.
  17. tblume

    tblume Always Be Gambling

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    Scarred to wander....
    Wandering scars...
  18. peterman

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    El Horno is a rancho place in the middle of 'effen nowhere at the end of muy mallow camino, can't recommend it.

    Yeah,, I figgered,,anyplace named "The Oven" is not for me!

    Jeff, there are long stretches of straight pavement between us and where we want to be, so a quick pace helps getting there sooner. Low to mid 90's works well. :1drink:D
    I'd really like to just magically appear somewhere in Baja Sur with my rHonda and ultra-lite camping gear. I might be more inclined to take on some less traveled roads and get out to see stuff.
    That loop that Hells is describing is exactly what I want to do, and the 950 just loved that first portion!.
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  19. Apple Jam

    Apple Jam Forest Flyer

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    Maybe I'll just magically appear there at the same time, then.

    I know you're right, peterman, that riding all that way will take too long, be too physically demanding and cost too much, and I appreciate what you're telling me from your experience,...but I'm really just inna stubborn and foolish mood right now and I don't really give a fuk about the actual reality of the situation :lol3
    I'll think you might understand that kinda mood once inna while :1drink

    We'll see how I feel come January.
    Maybe I'll come to my senses by then.
    If I have any sense left at all by then.
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  20. peterman

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    Yes,,expense on the US side is a factor. Roll down the coast for as far as ya want for the day, check into a motel, and you just spent in one night what amounts to a week's groceries in Baja. Or, like Al said,sleep in yer gear inna rest area to conserve funds. First time I road all the way, it cost me as much getting to the border as I spent the whole time on the other side.
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