Baja Adventure Riders

Discussion in 'West – California, the desert southwest and whatev' started by bigtodd, Oct 11, 2013.

  1. jonz

    jonz Miles are my mantra

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    Contact San Francisquito ahead of time. The son is Leonel and is on Facebook (that's the only way I know to contact them) https://www.facebook.com/leonel.peraltaarce
  2. desertdaves

    desertdaves DesertDave

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    Personally, I like crossing on the newer east crossing in Mexicali. It is quick and easy, especially on a bike.
  3. rally roo

    rally roo Total poser

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    Thanks for the info. I put an inquiry in at puertosf.com, they advertise fuel on the site. Looks like a nice place to camp as well!
  4. jonz

    jonz Miles are my mantra

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    I believe Puerto SF is right there by San francisquito and I have gotten fuel there one time when SF didn't have any. Puerto SF used to not want people there but when I got gas there a couple years ago it was a much better vibe and it is a beautiful little harbor.
  5. rally roo

    rally roo Total poser

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    Someone from Puerto SF got back to me via email within a few hours and confirmed they would be open on Christmas for fuel and had camping available. That definitely alleviates one of the bigger question marks for this trip.

    Here's our planned route so far:
    http://www.gpsvisualizer.com/display/20171205124916-02118-map.html

    Any sections that seem completely unrealistic (terrain/fuel/etc.) or stupid on 250 thumpers? It'll be a KTM 250 with a 5.3g tank, and a WR250F with a 3.1 and spare fuel bladder. I mostly used Moto Vaquero's ride report and GPS data from a local (to me) group that was out there last winter to plot the route, and confirmed that tracks at least exist via satellite imagery. Not sure how many miles we can realistically cover in a day over that kind of terrain, so adjustments will be made on the fly! I'll have paper maps as a backup, just in case.

    Thanks!
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  6. tbarstow

    tbarstow Two-wheelin' Fool

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    Looks like a good route.

    Day 6 - seriously sandy stuff. I wouldn't count on gas at Rancho Piedra Blanca and the sand will burn up more gas than you expect.
    Day 7 - Some sand, lots of rocks.

    On the highway sections, be prepared the possibility of LOTS of wind. That will suck gas like there is no tomorrow.

    Have a great ride!
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  7. Moto Vaquero

    Moto Vaquero Trail less traveled

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    Hey roo, looks like fun! Starting to plan my own multi day Baja ride.

    There are a few things I can add to make your ride more pleasurable;

    I would forget going down the wash when you leave Catavina, it's deep sugar sand and you can get all turned around in the trees, which is not fun on a loaded steaming bike (been there). I would just start the way you came out the day before.

    I would skip staying the night in Santa Rosalillita since there is no restaurant, gas is hard to find and the hotel sucks. If you go another 30 min or so to Rosarito, there is gas, a descent restaurant and a nice little hotel. Way better.

    If there is no real reason to go into Gro Negro, you can fill up at Jesus Maria and take a nice cut over road to El Arco which starts a few miles So. of Jesus M. You will have some time in the afternoon to enjoy San Fran then!

    The days are so short in Dec. and riding at night sucks!
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  8. jonz

    jonz Miles are my mantra

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    Do you (or anyone else) know if the Pemex in Jesus Maria has premium gas?
  9. Chup

    Chup Namaste...Bitches

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    Yes, it did when I rode through in late March, 2017. Don't know if they switch things up based on supply. Also, the Pemex in GN - half mile west off the main intersection also had it. Same timeframe.

    Cheers
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  10. fuggy

    fuggy Canyon Explorer

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    I agree with Tbar/MotoV's comments. We recently did that little trail out of Catavina and it was overgrown, hard to follow, and soft (we had KTM 350's with large tanks and no gear). Might as well start Day 5 by back tracking to the north and coming down the same way you came into Catavina to save frustration. Day 5 will most likely be the hardest/longest day with that terrain, make sure you are topped off, lots of food/supplies, and a warm wind-breaker for the beach sections. I found several of those spots to be marshy near the ocean/playa crossings, so be aware.

    Day 6 is really sandy into San Franscito, but you will be going predominantly downhill, so it shouldn't be a huge issue, unless the loaded down 250's can keep floating atop the sand. I've stayed at SF twice, and both times the price of fuel/food was triple what I was expecting, so be ready. If you have any extra energy on Day 6, I highly recommend zipping down the highway to San Ignacio for lunch at Rice & Beans and checking out the 300 year old mission in town. $.02

    I just did your Day 1 route two months ago, it was in good shape, Laguna Hansen had water, the National Park guys charged us $20 per vehicle to go through and were asking $10 per moto. (we stopped and were taking lots of photos)

    Day 9, it looks like you guys are taking a mountainous route between Puertocitos and San Felipe. I assume that is Matomi Wash? Only ever seen that once in a race car, but should be nice on a bike and offer some shade. Alfonsinas is looking really nice these days, prices also went up. Hit the store across the street from Pemex on the highway for fresh food, and large selection of beer/juice/water (west side of Hwy). Puertocitos also has private hot springs, you pay to play, but it is worth a soak if the tides are right and your body is hurting.

    Have fun, post pics and story when your done!
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  11. catfish

    catfish Squidicus Adventurous

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    Yeah, apparently the Japanese sardine fishing fleet has come to Santa Rosalillita. :-(

    Hotel Maru is your typical little baja box with cold-water-only & beer-can shower heads.

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    Jesse fishes while Maru runs their only store in town, Jesse's Place.

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    Slow satellite wifi got the Facebook addicts their morning fix. ;-) The patio fills with teens & smartphones after dark.

    Neither of them speak English or Japanese, so everything has changed in that small fishing village. She only rents rooms by the month now, & no longer offers to cook dinner & breakfast (great food!) & provide gasoline for those who call ahead & ask. The village has exploded & they are swamped.

    The Baja Nomad site & forums are another great resource for everything current in Baja.

    I miss the singletrack down there.

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    Should have last of bionic parts installed in March & rehabbed for a Jan or Feb 2019 Baja ride. I can't wait!

    Catfish ...
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  12. Moto Vaquero

    Moto Vaquero Trail less traveled

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    Ha ha, nothing like getting away from it all...

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  13. rally roo

    rally roo Total poser

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    Thanks for the tips! I've chopped out the section out of Catavina and south to Gro Negro and El Marasal; no need for more slab than necessary. Originally I was hoping to hit San Ignacio and find an overland route between El Azufre and San Francisquito, but couldn't find reliable tracks. We'll see how we're feeling by then! Re: Day 5; I was hedging my bets that we would make decent time over that terrain; we can always camp out before hitting Rosarito. That detour heading into San Felipe came from another rider's GPS tracks, but I haven't seen pictures or reports of how it rides. If we're feeling bushed by then we'll skip it!
  14. Moto Vaquero

    Moto Vaquero Trail less traveled

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    Day 5 will be pretty fast, shouldn't be a problem getting to Rosarito.

    Yah, it looks like you're going up Matome Wash then down Hautemote (sp?) Wash on the way to San Felipe. If you aren't feeling bushed by then, (which you will just be a little bored after the slab from Gonzaga) you will after those washes. Might find a few big sandy whoops in the latter if the SF 250 went through there recently.

    BTW, I really like the GPS Visualizer, I'll have to practice with it.
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  15. fuggy

    fuggy Canyon Explorer

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    GPS visualizer is excellent, especially using the topo and FS maps in the states. You can toggle between 15 different map layers other than google, and it shows much more info on older roads, trails, mines, springs, etc. Check it out.
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  16. rally roo

    rally roo Total poser

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    GPSvis is definitely a great tool for sharing; I've been building tracks with Furkot (essentially online Basecamp), and exporting to GPX for viewing/sharing and following on the road. Works great!
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  17. jonz

    jonz Miles are my mantra

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    Hehehe, a few? :knary
  18. MJS

    MJS Long timer

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    After the 1000 the old Puertecitos road is in bad shape. Not much fun on two or four wheels. IMHO.
  19. jonz

    jonz Miles are my mantra

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    I've ridden Old Puertocitos Rd a few times when friends not from the area noted the dirt road on their maps and wanted to give it a try. We never made it all the way to Hwy 5 (thankfully) before they cried 'mercy' and we took the next wash back to Hwy 5.