Baja Motorsports 70cc Dirt Bike?

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  1. LookOutLinn

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    (Not sure if this is the right place to start this thread)

    I've got a 10 year old daughter that rides a friends Honda 50cc dirt bike like a dream (but it's small for her size).... I want to to get her cheap 70 cc size dirt bike: Something that she can learn on, have fun, and then grow out of. My budget is $550.00. I've looked and looked for a used Honda 70cc (and simular sized bikes) with no success. The normal asking price is around $800-$1200. My local Tractor Supply Store is having a sale this coming weekend and I can get a new Baja Motorsports 70cc Dirt Bike for $540.00. My plan is for her to ride around the house and up/down fire roads with her dad. I figure that if the bike lasts her 2-3 years, I'll have gotten more than my money worth out of it. Does anyone have experience/opinions? Let me know.
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  2. Reposado1800

    Reposado1800 Juicy J fan!

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    Those things are terrible. Buy something better off of ebay and have it shipped to you. The SSR brand is higher quality.
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  3. cdnabn49

    cdnabn49 Been here awhile

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    I wouldn't say they're terrible - we have had one for 2 years - not bad at all
    is a better description - it's not a honda/yamaha etc so don't expect that quality... if you're looking for a cheap learner bike they work...

    I had mine left crated and I assembled it myself - it was truely easy... make sure you immediately change the oil and check the bolts and chain tension - some PDI people should be scraping gum off the floor not assembling motorcycles.
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  5. LookOutLinn

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    Thanks for the info. I went to this website:

    http://www.powersportsmax.com/index.php

    And I'm looking at this bike:

    http://www.powersportsmax.com/product_info.php/cPath/169_171/products_id/13954

    Per the telephone rep, It's made by SSR. Looks fun, but I'm worried that it might be to much motor for her. The seat height looks fine (She couldn't go much higher). Note: This one is Red Stickered.

    They have a 70cc too:

    http://www.powersportsmax.com/product_info.php/cPath/169_171/products_id/510

    But it's seat is a little short (25 inches) and the tires are smaller. Afraid she'll grow out of it fast. On the plus, It's Green Stickered.

    Root4rd3d: Thanks!!! I've called the Groveland area bike seller. Your right, it's only 8 miles from me (that takes 45 minute to drive if you take the fast way via Old Wards Ferry Road!!! :D ) It's funny, I've been looking on Craig's List in the Modesto & Gold Country area for weeks...

    Thanks for all the info... If you got more, let me know.

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  6. byron555

    byron555 Lame Duck Adventurer

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    Go with a used name brand bike Honda, Yamaha etc. I looked at the Chinese brands, and they are a good deal new, but when it comes time to sell them used, no one wants to buy them.

    If you find an xr70 for around $650, you will probably get $550 for it 6 years down the road (maybe even more), so long as it is not beat to crap. 6 year old china bike bike? Who knows, but you will not get $500 that is certain
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  7. Bonebag

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    Alot of guys around here wont even work on chinese bikes..not for any money..no way..they are pure junk in every way..and that means not safe..

    +1 on the Honda
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  8. 71olds

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    The motors on the Chinese bikes are not bad but all that hardware is super cheesy. & you cant get parts for your life.

    I picked my daugher up a 2003 yamaha ttr90 last year for 500.oo no issues & runs perfect
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  9. Zecatfish

    Zecatfish XTique Rider

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    We got a pair of the 90cc models, they are what they are. CHEAP.
    One is being used as a parts bike, my brother bought them new. Then because he is not a bike person, let them set outside for over year and I adopted them. The one for parts runs, but has an oil leak from the crank case split gasket. The other one was running great so I decided to use the second for parts.

    After laying in the field for a year, I clean the carbs and two kicks later was running. My boy (age 8) has ridden the soup outta the thing. It never fails to start, if the gas is clean. It has help up well to field riding. Just what it is designed for.

    A good learner bike. Nothing more nothing less.
    That being said, I got a CRF50 honda in the shop that has fire, compression, etc, but I can't make it run for anything. I've given up on it and just let it collect dust.
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  10. ACDNate

    ACDNate Been here awhile

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    Yep total junk, particularly my $600 OTD Chinese bike
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  11. LookOutLinn

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    Was that a joke?
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  12. r00t4rd3d

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    The dirt bikes are alittle different. They are basically Honda clones and alot easier to fab up a broken part for.

    Originally you were looking at them adult sized mini bikes right ?
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  13. ACDNate

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    Yeah sarcasm that apparently didn't land

    The bike is a Galaxy Motorcycles and rebadged as a SMC. Essentially a knock off KTM 85sx Frame and swing arm with a knockoff Honda 150 air cooled engine. Suspension a bit light for my 230lb frame, but sorted out nicely with the addition of a WP shock and spring.
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  14. kdxkawboy

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    I may be one of the few people that truly understand the humor of Wards Ferry Road being the fast way, like taking Cottonwood Road as the shortcut to Yosemite. And you are right, Sonora Pass is one of the best motorcycle roads and how lucky to have it in your own back yard (though Cottonwood, Big Hill, Beardsley Lake, Old Strawberry and Parrot's Ferry Roads aren't too shabby either).

    And I'd stick with the Honda XRs, or perhaps a Kawasaki KLX110. Get them cheap and after a few years you sell it to anther Dad looking for a a good deal.
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  15. scottro

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    I got it from PepBoys on a Black Friday $399 deal-io. IMO For the money, and if you're willing to do a little maintenance they're not a bad deal. However, if you're not mechanically inclined w/ a hint of McGuiverism, they're probably not the best purchase. If you do your own work, these bikes can be a pretty good deal.

    I had to do a little carb tuning to get it to start and idle properly after I got it home, but I didn't expect otherwise by something assembled by the delinquents at Pep Boyz. I also had to adjust the rear brake and tighten various nuts and bolts. This was as I expected.

    The bike runs and shifts fine. The motor is a Honda clone and seems pretty nicely built and finished. I changed the oil immediately before running the bike. I've heard horror stories about the fish oil included from China.

    Contrary to popular advice, I have found that Chinese pit bike parts are very easy to find and cheap on Ebay, and the internet in general. I see no big deal w/ this since I buy most of the parts for my BMW and Japanese bikes on the internet too. There are many pit bike sellers and sites on the web. These bikes are not going away soon.

    Most shops around here probably won't work on them, but if I can buy a brand-new upgrade motor for $200--$300, or new bike for $400-$500 I"m not paying a local shop $60/hr to do much work.

    The plastics are cheap and break easily. You'll have to fix and replace them now and then. About $25 gets you a new set on Ebay, or you can upgrade w/ better stuff from Japanese bikes.

    The controls are kinda cheap too. You'll probably end-up fixing the throttle a few times before replacing it too.

    I don't really care about resale. It's a $500 bike. Three years from now, I don't care if it's only worth $150--$200. The $500 laptop I'm typing this on will be worth far less.

    Everything else on the bike is solid, but not refined. It has a peppy Honda clone engine and is a hoot to ride. Your kid will love it. I've got 3 Chinese pit bikes and for the intended purpose they're fine.

    I'm not saying don't get a used XR75 or whatever. Just saying the Baja Motorsports bike isn't all bad.
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  16. hasenwerk

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    I have one of those 70cc bikes. Bought it last spring from WalMart for $250! My son rode the crap out of it last summer - few spills, broke the front fender, broke the shifter - that stuff will happen no matter what though if you crash it. It is a perfect bike - hell no. Did we get our money's worth out of it - hell yes! Even at $500 (reg price) it would have been a no regret purchase. Now my 9 year old daughter is using the bike and we purchased a 2010 Lifan 125cc 17"/14" dirt bike for the boy (12) for $650 delivered and he could not be happier! Is it a KTM or Yamaha - no, but it is about 1/5 of the price and if it lasts a summer we have a deal! Goes fast enough for me to get a few more grey hairs watching him! :D

    If it is for learning, these bikes are perfect. Racing and other "serious stuff" perhaps a brand name is better...
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  17. cdnabn49

    cdnabn49 Been here awhile

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    +1 brother - I bought mine figuring it would get abused and has held up very well...
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  18. murgatroid42

    murgatroid42 Great Adventurer

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    +1. I bought a brand new XR70 for $1290 (OTD price) for my 11 year daughter, and sold it 2 years later for $1100. If you get a good, used XR70/CRF70, you should be able to sell it for $300 less in 3 years. That Honda had zero problems and was REALLY easy to start, which is a BIG plus for the kid.

    LookOutLinn, $300 in 3 years is even cheaper than the $540 spent in 3 years for that no-name bike, which you said would "have gotten more than my money worth out of it". Stick with a real Honda. My $0.02.
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  19. LookOutLinn

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    I finally pulled the trigger and bought my daughter a dirt bike.... A 2002 Honda XR70 for $400. found on Craigslist. It's real cool!!! Fast and fun. Fits my daughter like a glove. I had it hidden in the back seat area of my extended cab truck. She was very happy to find it there.

    Thanks again foor all the info / opinions!!!

    Now it's time for me to get a smaller dit bike (Can't have her have all the fun). :evil
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  20. murgatroid42

    murgatroid42 Great Adventurer

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    Congratulations, your daughter will love it (mine daughter liked hers). You won't regret getting a real Honda, especially at $400.
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