Bakery Quest - a year hacking the US with our kid and dogs.

Discussion in 'Ride Reports - Epic Rides' started by szurszewski, Oct 16, 2016.

  1. fasttortoise

    fasttortoise Been here awhile

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    Man I really want to trash Max BMW. I could point out that you brought your bike back (in part) due to shoddy work. I could suggest that in such a situation a manager should have triple checked the bike before it left the shop.

    But I won't because thinking about it makes my head hurt.
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  2. szurszewski

    szurszewski Long timer

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    Rolled out of the shop's driveway, heading up the highway, route selected to avoid tolls and take me through the hills, go to flick on the cruise control so I can reach over and adjust the velcro on the sidecar top...and ... damned cruise control doesn't work. I know it worked when I dropped it off because I took the toll roads down and used the cruise most of the way. Ugh. For some reason - thank you - BMW actually made the diagnostic procedure for the CC fully accessible with no special tools, computer or anything, and I ran through it this summer after putting on the new throttle cables... went through the steps after arriving in Albany and it looks like either the switch on the throttle body, or the clutch switch it to blame. But, it's cold and dark and late here, so I'll mess with that tomorrow in the sun.

    I did have a great ride and didn't even get too wet or cold - very nice - and didn't have any surprise deer jump out in front of me (did have some friendly turkeys gobble across the road early on though).
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  3. MrAndMrsZINC

    MrAndMrsZINC zero income,no children... Lots of time

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    Careful what you wish for, i guess??....:scratch



    Bummer.... "Happy" is subjective
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  4. szurszewski

    szurszewski Long timer

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    Well, like I said, I'd already decided not to take the interstate - had I been spending two solid hours on I91/90, I'm sure I'd be less happy. Also, for now, I'm choosing to believe it will be something I can figure out and sort tomorrow. Once I figure out I've been deluding myself, well...
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  5. ADK

    ADK .......................

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    Are you sure you didn't go to Mack's instead of Max? :scratch :dunno
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  6. Blader54

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    Ah dammit.....two steps forward, one step back. This is starting to make MY head hurt, and my blood boil. I can only imagine how you must feel. Then I remembered....we live in a throwaway culture, where things are replaced, not repaired, when they break, as exemplified by the shop that keeps mangling your bike. At least the ride back to Albany was nice. Did you take 44 over to 8 and then up to Massachusetts on that?
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  7. ADK

    ADK .......................

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  8. szurszewski

    szurszewski Long timer

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    Zing!

    WE spent most of July in Vermont and Maine, and I know we rode by that stop twice - closed both times. I did look it up online and got the impression they worked primarily on "classic" BMWs, but looking at their site now I see it clearly says "through 2005" - probably should have gone there as it's not very far from here. And by not far from here, I mean actually six or so miles closer than Max's shop in Windsor!


    I'm certainly not angry - frustrated and annoyed, but not angry. Though they were not terrible overall, and I wouldn't go out of my way to discourage others from going there, I can say I don't plan to go back to Max for any service/sales and probably even parts (though they do make is SO easy to order online...), and if someone asked if I'd recommend them, at this point, I would not.

    I ran through the diagnostic steps again this morning and it still points to the same thing. In working the throttle and using the cable adjusters at the grip, it is clearly not snapping closed the way it should, so I'm thinking it's either been routed or pinched going around/under the tank, or it's not connected properly at the throttle bodies. Going to go and pull the left side panel off the bike and go from there. I'd like to avoid taking the tank off again since it was just off last weekend, but it's only like forty of fifty screws...
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  9. Old fool

    Old fool Road rider

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    oh well then . . .
  10. OregonFlier

    OregonFlier '79 XL185s, '89 Transalp

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    Given the level of incompetence displayed in that last pic, I think actively warning others away from them would be the responsible approach. We aren't in cars, and that kind of sloppiness can kill on a bike.
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  11. szurszewski

    szurszewski Long timer

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    Spent yesterday in our cousin's garage (thank you Lisa!) taking all the bodywork and gas tank off the front of the bike - again - so I could figure out the cruise control issue. I will start by saying Max did a better job putting things back together this time; as far as I can tell, only one fastener was missing completely, a couple were put back obviously incongruously (though they did "fit"), and they only shaved a little bit of the threads where the seat support/gas tank surround mates to the frame

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    as opposed to last time where they'd shaved out about a third of the threads (looking at the seat frame with the bolt removed, you can see it actually takes some effort to get it all lined up - or really I should say a good effort, because I'd imagine they put in "some" effort).

    When I first started taking bits off I saw this poking out and thought, what is that?
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    Hmmm - closer look:
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    Can you tell yet? I still could not. Turned out it was one of these:
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    Now, I have two of those on the front of the bike connecting my dashpod with voltmeter and 12v for my phone, but that was working fine, and I'm pretty sure the only other positaps on the bike are blue and in the back for the trailer/sidecar wiring. Hmmm...., I thought, and carried on. (Actually, not true, at that point it became clear I was going to have to take it all apart, and moved from the parking lot two blocks to said cousin's garage).

    In the end, I think this - clearly not the fault of Max's - was the main issue

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    and I think the coincidence of it presenting just after their work was due to the core problem of a gunked up twist grip being compounded by the "alternate path" they'd selected for the routing of the throttle cables (I'm not a mechanic and certainly not a design engineer, but I do assume that the little clips and mounts put on the bike for the cables to rest on/in are there for a reason; as such, I've always used them, but apparently the tech didn't follow that idea).

    It's all back together now, the cruise diagnostics tests all say the cruise should work, but by the time I finished buttoning it up yesterday I was clearly mentally tired enough that I shouldn't be riding, so I'll be testing it today. As for the posi-bit, I expected to find they'd maybe dropped the bit and replaced it on the wiring with something else, but that was not the case. I suppose they could have dropped it and replaced it with a piece they had in stock, but I sort of doubt they use positaps, so I assume I dropped that bit when first wiring in the dash pod back in Washington last year and it's been hiding somewhere ever since.


    I'm torn on that point -on one hand clearly anyone can see that it's wrong, and I'm glad it didn't come apart when the tech took it out on a test ride. I wonder if they really put it together just like that, or if they simply didn't tighten it and it loosened during the test ride. On the other hand, in no way do they bill themselves as a sidecar shop, or having sidecar experience (that I'm aware of, anyway). If it were just that and not also continued evidence of sloppy fastener work on the body panels and seat frame, etc. and I'd not think much of it...but, combined... I don't know. At this point I don't think I'll be a customer in the future, and I wouldn't take this bike back in there again if only for the simple point that the frame doesn't have enough threads left at the seat/tank mounting points to handle another one of their reassemblies.

    But now that's all - hopefully - taken care of, and it's a beautiful day here to go out for a cruise control test ride, so I think that's what I'll do. Maybe I'll take the pups if no one else wants to join me - though Eddy might not be so keen to get in a vehicle: yesterday Laura took him to the vet for his annual checkup while I was working on the bike, and apparently he was not too fond of the experience.
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  12. szurszewski

    szurszewski Long timer

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    Alright - one more post - I was going to put this as an "Oh..." at the bottom of the last one, but it was already so long I know some of you were going to skip it (but I've tricked you with this one!). Here's what I was going to say:

    Oh - you might remember this from earlier:

    As some of you know, I'm lucky enough to have three moms - the one I've had since, well, for me, since ever, and two I picked up through, you could say, contractual obligation, though that doesn't sound as pleasant as it should. I know I've mentioned my mom - the one from whom I was birthed - and you've probably spotted Pat in some pics as she's in Albany now as well, and we've run into her a couple of other times on the trip, but you maybe haven't heard much or seen my stepmom, Chris.

    Well, on Saturday while I was waiting to hear from the shop and then while I was driving down and riding back (and no, I wasn't reading them then), a handful of emails trickled into my account from her; they appeared to be in chronological order, starting when I was around five, and showed me, and often my dad, wielding tools of some sort. The first message was subjected (<-- you can use that like that, right?) "Challenge accepted" - and though you maybe have figured it out thanks to the context above, I had no idea what it meant - though I had a good time looking at the pictures.

    Well, those things are in no way motorcycle related (wait - not true - one of the most recent one does appear to show me working on a motorcycle), but I thought some of you - and, mom, really I mean you here - might be really bored, so here if you want to look at them, here's a link.

    I don't know if Chris met her goal or not, and it may have got a little tangential at the end, but I appreciate it all the same - definitely made me :) and maybe some of you will be amused as well.
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  13. szurszewski

    szurszewski Long timer

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    I don't go in much for celebrity, and though music is important to me I'm not one to get into the details of musicians' lives or to mourn the passing of those I've never known.

    All that said, I'm currently listening to Echo at quarter to two in the morning, reminiscing about what was going on in and around my life when I had various Heartbreakers albums in heavy rotation, maybe tearing up a little and really wishing I'd brought my good headphones :)
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  14. szurszewski

    szurszewski Long timer

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    Test ride this morning to check the cruise control: success!


    Tried, Jeremiah and I, making hand pulled cotton candy this afternoon:
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    Failure!
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  15. Nixels

    Nixels Face fears - live life

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    :eek7 That looks like what Max's left behind after pulling your clutch cable through the wrong end! :patch
  16. Ol Man

    Ol Man Been here awhile

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    Quesion is, did it taste good?
  17. szurszewski

    szurszewski Long timer

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    That is a good question. As far as flavor, it tasted like sugar; the overall eating experience though was not really palatable - and by that I mean even the eight-year-old was like, no thanks - that's too chewy to eat. Basically it was like...well, it was like if you melted down a bunch of sugar into hard, chewy, amazingly-stick-to-your-teeth strands and then tried to eat them.

    I think we're going to try again tomorrow. I think we might also have an idea of what comes next....and I don't mean for the cotton candy.
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  18. MrAndMrsZINC

    MrAndMrsZINC zero income,no children... Lots of time

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    (we are no good at waiting....)
    1. Was the second batch any better?
    2. What comes next?!.!?!?!?

    (Your story is a bigger tease than cotton candy)
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  19. szurszewski

    szurszewski Long timer

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  20. greiffster

    greiffster Adventurer

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    Why did you put your fish tank aerator in your transmission fluid?
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