Barrancas Del Cobre

Discussion in 'Ride Reports - Epic Rides' started by The Walrus, Mar 20, 2013.

  1. shortcutsmc

    shortcutsmc Been here awhile

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    The main reason I don't pick out those high end hotels is not because I'm so frugal, (please refrain from comments) it is because the crowd that is likely to be there is not too trustworthy. How trustworthy could some one be that was willing to pay 200 extra pesos' for a private toilet? All joking aside they had nice quarters and as long as they were gone before the owner returned and exclaimed "WTF" they were in good shape. great ride, great people, great RR.:freaky
  2. The Walrus

    The Walrus Gone and back again.

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    Your link to the 2008 ride is appreciated. Just like Baja, progress is a double edged sword. The run to LaPaz is no longer as difficult as 5 years ago and the backdoor to Batopilas is not the same either.

    I feel very fortunate to have some limited experience with both places before they get paved over.....coincidentally, Baja Nov. 2010 with an XRR, Baja March 2011 with an XRR, Baja March 2012 with the 990Adv and now, Barrancas Del Cobre on the 690e. With the ongoing development of the road system, I think that the bigger bikes like the 990 Adv might now be candidates to take through that back door......I know several riders who are skilled enough to ride what we did on the bigger bikes.

    I'm not sure who provided Burt with the tracks that he loaded, but if it was your path that you blazed, Muchas Gracias.
  3. Mi Vale Madre

    Mi Vale Madre Adventurer

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    thanks for the kind words ceebee and ever one else. was a great ride and outstand company.looking forward to next time. BURT
  4. Sleddog

    Sleddog Ridin, again:)

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    Great Ride Report Guys! Always fun to read others experiences in the Canyons!

    I was the last guy in line with the Minnesota Group!

    You Should A told me about the guy laying in the road around the corner!:deal SCARED t-h-e Hell outa me! At least when he moved, I knew he was alive.....barley:D

    We stayed in Morelos & La Lajita too! Now, we know the "Rest" of the story:D you guys are famous!

    Stay tuned for our RR:ear

    Sleddog
  5. rapiti

    rapiti IOR Veteran

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    Great RR, gents. Reassuring to learn CC is coming back.

    Thanks for sharing.
  6. Rockin Rollin

    Rockin Rollin Rockin Adventurer

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    Hey, thanks for reportring guys. You covered some great terrain!
  7. chabon

    chabon Been here awhile

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    Breakfast in front of the 'hotel'. Sleep in today, didn't meet up for breakfast until 0700. Town is still asleep.
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    Original owner (?), somewhere along our route today...
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    Mike had the shrimp followed by OYSTERS. Brave man.
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    I had the coconut shrimp, pretty good.
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    The scene of the crime. Desk clerk wrote one deposit slip for the key (100 pesos) and one slip for the remote (250 pesos). In the confusion of the lobby she made the $250peso slip disappear and in the morning pretended she never wrote it up, she knew. I would ask you to avoid the Malibu Motel in Guaymas because of the corrupt staff. The motel itself was okay.
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    In the morning it was more slab to Sonoyta. Here is a big bug made out of a VW bug
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    The only other time we got 'seperated' for a bit was here. I sat at the Pemex while the boys went back to look for Ken. We had waited here and he was waiting in town. We found each other and continued on. Somewhere along the route we stopped for gas and a snack. Mike and Burt opened a can of sardines. I had to move upwind. They had a powerful smell about them.
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    Our hotel in Sonoyto. Sketchy border town but we pretty much had to stay here. The place to export the bikes used to be located about 20 miles south of the border. When I entered Mexico the Customs guy told me to export bike 10 kilometers south of border so I figured we were good. Well, when we stopped at the location as we came north they told us the export location was back in Caborca now, 150 miles south!!! We weren't going back and would now have to cross at San Luis Colorado, no big deal, we would leave Mexico tomorrows.
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    Last chance for cactus and some sort of meat.
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    Small bathroom, but they had great water pressure and hot water. (and a toilet seat!)
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    Ken had to fix the curtain after he hung his gear here and it all came tumbling down
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    Mike skipped dinner, we wasn't feeling good. I walked down to the Subway and got him a sandwich. It was further than I thought and the night people were out. I crossed the road a couple times to avoid some of the people, looked like some huffers and meth heads were out. Mike couldn't hold down the sandwich and we just hoped he would be okay until he got home sometime tomorrow.....could it be the oysters?????

    :topes:nah:flush

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  8. shortcutsmc

    shortcutsmc Been here awhile

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    Chabon, I love your last 2 videos, how appropriate.Thanks for the super RR. I'm anxious to see what the MI guys had to say about their ride. Also somewhat supprised to hear the Indian guy that was laying 1/2 on the traveled road was alive. My guess was that he expired where stopped. All is well and if he starts early the next day he could be one of those guys that "drinks all day" Gotta start early though.:freaky
  9. chabon

    chabon Been here awhile

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    and now a little something from an Argentinian band.....
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    After a goodnights sleep (not sure about Mike) we are on the way to Yuma today. Kind of sad to go, I could have kept going south but...... We follow the border on the Mexican side. New road, a little construction and dirt detours but went pretty fast.
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    We check out the bikes, fast and easy process, Ken buys some tequilla and gives me a bottle to take across as he would be over the limit. Gregg's bike is not ready to leave Mexico and lays down in protest
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    Don't see any smoke from the KTM, good thing we change oil, pistons and the crank every 300 miles. The knobs are about gone...
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    Burts hauling ass to the barn
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    Could only fit my head in the photo, no bike
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    Mike peeled off to go find a public restroom or something. Gregg is around somewhere, didnt get a parting shot...

    We got back to Burt's house and it was early enough to load up and hit the road back to Santa Barbara. Ken loaded up also to make it part way home. Quick goodbyes and another 390 miles in the truck. Only got lost a little in San Bernardino when I wasn't paying attention to the GPS.

    Great trip, great country, super people, fantastic riding.
  10. chabon

    chabon Been here awhile

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    If you look close, you will see that the KTM is sporting a Yamaha mirror! (Don't tell Ken I pointed this out).

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    Can't remember what happened to his mirror, but since I had two and he had none we worked it out.
  11. 805gregg

    805gregg Long timer

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    I can't wait for your ride report, you got a late start out of Urique, I was wondering how that last stretch into Batophilas was for you guys, I will be looking foward to your ride report, we told the first 3 riders about the sleeping guy. We thought he might be dead
  12. The Walrus

    The Walrus Gone and back again.

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    I've got a wedding in Wyoming to attend, no Mazatlan Bike week for me....thanks for this ride.....:clap

    :ear We're waiting for your RR with open ears.....hoping for lots of photos and stories......I remember Suzies, a Katoom, a small GS.....which one was you? We really thought you'd have a good time getting over that mountain as late and hot as it was......and if that guy in the road was still there, I'm surprised he was alive......

    Ya, the 690e had major failures including a heat shield bolt, the headlight aim and the folding KTM mirror which sheared off at the base.....Thanks for the Yammie lend, it would have been uncomfortable not to have a mirror in traffic....and for all those who wonder.....the Yammie mirror swings both ways, rightie and leftie......kinda like the redhead at b'fast in Alamo......:huh
  13. rapz

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    Great to see pixs of Mexico riding. I miss riding down there, but things are getting better so I hope to get down there again. Thanks for the ride report.
  14. chabon

    chabon Been here awhile

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    and this song is dedicated to our 'true' travelin man BURT
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    Okay, so your wondering, what do you pack for a trip like this? Wonder no more. Well, your needs might be different, but here is what I did and what I learned. Every trip I try to exclude stuff I didn't use for the next trip. Light and small is my goal. Riding the Wr250 it's also good to minimize. So lets see....

    This was my total package except for my riding gear and a fleece jacket.
    The two plastic trays held my small stuff in my tank bags, as well as my paperwork in a ziplock.
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    Left turpperware had stuff to clean visor, headlamp, battery and phone charger, tire gage, ear plugs, chapstick, etc.
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    Right tupperwear had knife, lighter, AAA batteries for SPOT, earplugs (gonna have to loose some earplugs to save some weight).
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    Here is my left Wolfman, all clothe are synthetic or merlino wool for easy cleaning and fast drying. Couple pair of shorts, one pair of pants with zip off legs, 3 short sleeve shirts, long under armor (pants and shirt) for cold days, 5 pair of socks, water shoes/sandels, couple of small toiletry bags.
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    and this is all I really used and needed. Rinsed clothes every night or every other night. Could go with a smaller/flatter/lighter pair of shoes.
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    The right Wolfman held my toolbag (spare tube was on front fender in pouch), water filter kit, firstaid kit, sleeping bag liner, cook kit, some coffee and energy bars, and a ziplock with spare Wolfman buckles, memory card, and a little rope.
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    and here is what I could have gotten by with. Didn't use any of these things but I will always carry tools and parts, water filter, firstaid kit.
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    I will use this post to help me remember what to pack next time! But everything I need for a 2 week trip (actually perpetual trip) would fit in one Wolfman bag with room to spare. So with all that extra room why not through in a few luxury items, as long as they are light weight! and plenty of room for camping gear if your aren't hotelling it.
  15. Bgunn

    Bgunn Mucha distancia

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    Was impressed with your packing on the last few trips. This has always been the final frontier for myself, on the fine art of packing light.

    Maybe next time we can see the cook kit in action...We can heat up some sardines...:evil :lol3
  16. chabon

    chabon Been here awhile

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    Hot sardines with rancid mayonnaise sounds good :puke1

    Las Vegas NHRA finals this weekend, Carizzo Plain camping next weekend, Central Coast Trail camping in two weeks, then San Francisco. I think I will have missed every weekend of being home for 3 months! I need a vacation from vacation. Mexico would be the only exception. Keep me in the loop for future trips, I'm ready and as you can see, it doesn't take too long to pack!
  17. chabon

    chabon Been here awhile

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    Was looking at a report on Expedition Portal and seems the shootout happened prior to April of 2008. Just a little slow patching the holes. See this link

    http://www.expeditionportal.com/for...anderings-in-Mexico/page7?highlight=batopilas


    Again, safe in Mexico. Don't let this deter you. We all hear the reports of all the shootings in the States. In fact, I would venture to guess that Mexico as well as a lot of other countries have travel warnings about coming to the USA.

    I would be more afraid of the sardines or a stray animal on the road!!
  18. motoged

    motoged Been here awhile

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    Walrus,
    As a fellow 690'er ( :evil), I chuckled with that line.....those are standard bike issues....what about fuel pump, regulator, rocker cam bearings issues? THOSE are major failure issues with some of these beasts :cry

    Any mechanical issues with your 690 before and during this ride?
  19. The Walrus

    The Walrus Gone and back again.

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    Ged,

    I got into big trouble on the 690 thread for telling that bunch that I consider the 690e as reliable as any bike made......:evil

    I got the same grief when I bought my current '02 GS......everyone said I'd have a FD failure and that bike's now 10 years old and I really like it still.....

    I'm not a mechanic so I do maintenance and I'm not particularly hard on bikes except for being a big guy....finally lost those extra Camarones kilos......:wink:

    I have had more troubles with the "solid" XRR's than the 690's.....and, shhhhh....I've got two......The fact is that it was a running joke with Chabon on this trip.......really, the biggest fail was the rubber, those Pirelli MT-21's were lumpy on the road and wore out quickly. They were new when I started this ride and after the 2300 miles, they can run a few local trips to the post office but will be useless otherwise. I don't think that the Shinko's are a viable alternative for the 690 but I'm curious to hear otherwise from somebody who has tried them. The Shinko's were on all four of the other bikes and seemed to ride well on both the pavement and dirt. I still have a few more tires in my inventory, one more MT-21 rear and I'll bet money that Pirelli will never see any more of my $$$......:lol3
  20. motoged

    motoged Been here awhile

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    W,
    Thanks for the reply....yep....the 690 thread thrives on the bike's misfortunes....but has all the fixes for the ones that need it. :deal:D

    SO glad to hear that both your 690's are running without major conniption
    fits :clap

    As you know, it eats rear tires....I am liking the MotoZ Desert HT for Baja....might try a Heidenau rear sometime if it comes in a 140/18....