Basic Basil"s corner

Discussion in 'New Zealand' started by Kokopelli, Dec 20, 2012.

  1. Padmei

    Padmei enamoured

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    The L bracket will be to rest under the frame. I can't explain it very well but after buggering around with my sidestand the forces & stresses upon the sidestand & its' attachments when the bike is on an angle is quite queer.

    Actually disregard that - I had another look- How the F is that gonna work?

    I have taken my screen off for the summer & it is quite nice having the warm breeze over me. Did a 400k ride today & feel pretty fresh still. Those tyres look good.
    I agree about the airhead ergos. I end up riding the highways with my feet on the rearsets as it is more comfortable. I have raised the seat, lowered pegs & got 50mm risers - great for standing now:D
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  2. Renner

    Renner rockin' the toaster

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    That sidestand bears a resemblance to Carl's design, though perhaps not quite so refined :D
    http://www.flyingtpot.com/sidestands.htm

    and I could not help but notice: your license plate shows trail-credibility. most impressive. :thumb
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  3. Kokopelli

    Kokopelli Yeah, right!

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    The stand is quite sturdy and well made, but I think I will need to mess with the way it's attached. maybe I need to add some sort of shackle. Unfortunately, I don't know how to weld. Maybe it's time to learn.
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  4. Padmei

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    HA! you want to learn about welding?
    Step this way my lil friend.

    Step one: don't clean any surfaces.
    Step two: put a weld down - preferably not anywhere near where the metal to be joined is.
    Step three: drip some red hot molten lava onto your big toe hanging out of your jandle.
    Step four: forget to drop the helmet down & get red-eye.
    Step five: finally weld the pieces together and pick them up with bare hands right by the weld.
    Step six: Lift cooled welded piece & give a wiggle to see how joineded it is.
    Step seven: pull impaled piece of metal with broken weld out of other foot.
    Step eight: Keep welding over top of original weld until Fricking thing sticks togther

    Remember the biggerer the weld the strongerer it is
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  5. Kokopelli

    Kokopelli Yeah, right!

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    Thanks, got that. I knew it was easy.Just to think, I would have wasted my money on a course.
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  6. Kokopelli

    Kokopelli Yeah, right!

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    I have had a play with the side stand. I took the engine bar off and fitted the stand to work out what needs to be done.

    This angle looked about right, so I marked the length of the stand.

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    Side view

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    I could bolt this bracket on here, but I think it needs to go on top, because the engine bolt is the pivot

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    This looks about right and just clears the main stand, when folded up

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    So what do you guys think?

    It's a nice stand and I like the look without the engine bars. I could use the rear engine mount, but
    then the stand would stick out towards the rear wheel, and somehow that doesn't feel right to me.
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  7. Night Falcon

    Night Falcon Adventure NZL

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    Nice work. This site needs some fresh meat....err, I mean, material. :D
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  8. Kokopelli

    Kokopelli Yeah, right!

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    These are on special at the moment 63 Euros without the tax, but plus 48 Euros shipping. Could be a good idea for a low riding beast like Basil.

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  9. Box'a'bits

    Box'a'bits In need of repair

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    Also consider this one.
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  10. Kokopelli

    Kokopelli Yeah, right!

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    Not bad, it's thicker.

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  11. Renner

    Renner rockin' the toaster

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    I like the OEM plate, haven't tried the others.
    The GS plate fits well along the headers.

    Did the sidestand not want to work at the aft engine pin location?

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  12. Kokopelli

    Kokopelli Yeah, right!

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    Would you mind showing me a close-up of how your side stand attaches?
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  13. Kokopelli

    Kokopelli Yeah, right!

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    Would you mind showing me a close-up of how your side stand attaches?

    Also, where and how did you attach your front indicators? I've zip-tied mine on for now, but have bought some small LED replacements.
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  14. Renner

    Renner rockin' the toaster

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    can do, but for now check out Carl's thread in vendors: http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=643293&highlight=Carl
    I'll point out that on his design, the forward hole is threaded, so the engine pin screws into the plate bracket that the sidestand is mounted on.

    Regarding the turn signals, my R80ST has those mounted to the headlamp & instrument carrier... more like an R65 assembly than what the R80GS Basic has, AFAIK.
    Fortunately for me, it bolts-up to the GS triple tree easily with the addition of two simple brackets at top. There are another two attach point at the lower yoke which work perfectly with no modifications.
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  15. Box'a'bits

    Box'a'bits In need of repair

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    Sidestands. Carl's stand is a copy of the Phil design. That attaches to the rear engine mounts & the back of the footpeg pivots.

    The Migsel design uses the rear mounts & a shackle type design onto the frame

    I've looked at yours for a while & struggle to see how it would mount...What's the history on this? It does look as if it is supposed to use the rear engine & flick up into the space behind the muffler.
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  16. Kokopelli

    Kokopelli Yeah, right!

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    Thanks for the link. I guess I could somehow mount it back there, with a bit of modification. I'll have another look at it.

    Because you had the later forks, I thought that your indicators would have been mounted at the top of the fork. I hadn't realized that the ST has different mounting points.

    Now I remember why the rear mounting position wasn't so good. It interfered with the shifter and I don't like the fact that the side stand would extend so far back towards the rear wheel.
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  17. Kokopelli

    Kokopelli Yeah, right!

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    Supposedly it's for an Airhead and I can buy it for $100, so it's worth messing with it for a bit.
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  18. Kokopelli

    Kokopelli Yeah, right!

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    As some of you might know, Basil has been a little reluctant to drop his revs when throttling off. He's a real goer. Sometimes, especially on steep down hill section, this can scare the rider.

    I've been advised to remove the inspection cover on the bean can and lube the weights. If I sound like I know what I am doing, that's purely coincidental

    Like the good boy I am, I disconnected the battery before removing the front cover.

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    It looked pretty filthy in there and I couldn't see an inspection cover, so a bit of cleaning was in order.

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    I know, those photos suck

    But I did find the inspection cover

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    and soon after, the macro setting on the camera

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    The little cover has two little vents, either that, or I poke them in while removing the thing with a chisel.

    I went and sprayed CRC in there trying to hit the pivot points. I was clever enough to rotate the crankshaft.

    Hopefully this will make a difference, I am tempted to buy an upgraded ignition system, but I don't have a spare $500.

    I also found some metal fuzz stuck to the alternator and some of the contacts. Where did that come from? Maybe there was a lot of metal in Muriwai's black sand, I cleaned enough out of there? Where else could it come from?

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    Merry Christmas, by the way. The weather sucks, so I am doing this.
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  19. Box'a'bits

    Box'a'bits In need of repair

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    Actually, in this instance I have to agree with Supershaft. A hanging idle is most often a symptom of the mixture screw needing adjustment.
    • Adjust the values;
    • Make sure you have a clean air filter.
    • Take the bike for a 10-15km ride
    • Then balance the idle adjustment for the throttle cables, to make sure that they are evenly set.
    • Once that is set, adjust the mixture screws according to whichever system rings your bells, either the bing way, or the mid point between the highest idle.
    • Rebalance the carbs
    Each carb adjusts individually - i.e., they don't have to be set the same no of turns out. While I was working out the carb issues with Gus I had plenty of experience with this. I do the mid point adjustment - the bing adjustment is fiddlier.
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  20. Kokopelli

    Kokopelli Yeah, right!

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    Thanks for that Steve. I hate adjusting the carbs and the last time just did it by feel and sound. Clearly it wasn't good enough.
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