Bay Area Adventure Riders Club

Discussion in 'West – California, the desert southwest and whatev' started by T O Double D, Dec 2, 2009.

  1. live2ridetahoe

    live2ridetahoe RN

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    I really like the brothers that own Adventure Design. Good guys imho. I bought my Klim Badlands suit from them. They don't charge tax on the Klim gear.

    If you are looking for winter gloves, check out the Klim Element glove. I have the short version. I have even used them the past two winters snowboarding. Good glove.

    JG
  2. live2ridetahoe

    live2ridetahoe RN

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    Hi all....

    I am heading to Mongolia soon and just picked up a Garmin 78sc. This is my first GPS. I got a file from Walter Colebatch with his POIs, waypoints, etc. in Mongolia. Would anyone be willing to meet up and give me a quick tutorial on how to use it and how to load files, maps, etc?

    My trip is coming up really soon. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    Cheers,

    Jeff G.
  3. y0y02369

    y0y02369 Long timer

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    Yep! Couldn't agree more. Really nice guys and really helpful too!

    I actually was looking at the element gloves... why short though? Have you ridden in the rain with them? If so, how'd they hold up?
  4. live2ridetahoe

    live2ridetahoe RN

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    I just like short gloves. I put them under my jacket cuffs. Not a ton of rain, but lots of snow days. They are GoreTex and have broken in nicely.

    JG
  5. M N B

    M N B would rather be riding

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    Yeah, they're nice guys. They have events at their shop every so often.

    I used to like Klim gear. But since they released the $1300 ADV Rally jacket, their prices on everything have gone WAY up. $130 dirt pants are now $190-210. The Badlands and ADV jacket feel like I'm wearing three jackets over each other. Bulky and restrictive would be a major understatement.

    Still I search for the mythical 4 season gear. Because when you're going ADV, you don't have room to pack extra gear. You don't have room for much more than camping gear and some basic tools, food, spare gloves, etc.
  6. Roadracer_Al

    Roadracer_Al louder, louder, louder!

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    Quick Mongolian language lesson:

    Tzaaa - yes
    Ugui - no
    Bayertaa - thank you (lit: with happiness)
    Bayertala - goodbye (get a speaker to give you pronunciation help, it's about impossible to Romanize)
    Joyo - bathroom
    Ger - home/circular tent
    Shar Peev - lager beer (lit. yellow beer)
    Har Peev - dark beer
    Ulaan -- red
    Ulaan Baatar -- Red Hero (the name of the capital city)
    Chiggaray - straight (direction)
    Zun gar tish - turn left (gar is hand, lit. make left hand turn)
    Barun gar tish - turn right
    Tishay -- this way (with pointing a direction) or that one when making a selection.
    Tugrug - the denomination of Mongolian currency
    Khun - person (asiprated kh, almost like hoon)
    Harkhoon - special/beloved person
    Minii -- my/mine
    Tahnii -- yours
    Tend -- theirs
    Nahoy - dog
    Gulik - puppy
    Chingis -- the proper Romanization of Genghis Khan, pronounced ching gis -- you'll earn points saying it properly.

    When you enter someone's home (a tent is a home), you will be offered a drink. It's symbolic of hospitality. Always receive the bowl with both hand, and take a sip: it's probably got vodka in it, but it might also be tea, or Kumis, a fermented milk beer-ish drink. It's impolite to refuse it, but you also don't have to drink all of it.

    When you arrive at someone's home, but before you enter, you can announce yourself by saying "Nahoy Horroroy" -- literally, "hold the dogs". You'll get smiles with that one. Don't use it more than once, though.

    Mongols don't haggle. The price is the price. There will be a locals price and a Westerner price. Get used to it and don't bitch too much about it... the average Mongolian wage when we lived there 12 years ago was about $7 per day.

    It's not a bad idea to bring small gifts. It used to be expected to bring liquor and cigarettes, but a) they're hard to carry on a bike, b) they're a public health problem. Candy is probably good. Matches or lighters are always appreciated away from the cities.

    Many Mongols speak a second language. Older (50 +) might speak Russian. Younger (20 or less) there's a good chance they will speak English, and possibly Chinese or Korean. Because they're neighbors, they don't especially like China, but recognize they have a huge amount of economic power. Korea is a major economic partner.

    Have fun! It's a wonderful, wonderful place.
  7. live2ridetahoe

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    I have a program on my iPhone that has Mongolian on it. I have listened to both of those words dozens of times, yet I'm still having trouble with the pronunciation! It is a tough language to speak. Don't even get me started with reading it!!

    Thanks for the great advice. I'm bringing candy and stickers for the kids(packs easy) and some lighters(will buy there) and batteries for the adults.

    Cheers,

    Tahoe
  8. CA_Rage

    CA_Rage Been here awhile

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    I bought the Latitude Jacket and the Overland Pants (from Adventure Design).
    I find these are a good balance between my year round commute and the times I get out in the dirt or twisties.
    I was tired of packing so much stuff. I can throw a light warm layer under either and be fine for 80% of my ride. It's only the days it gets down to around 25 or lower I start to think about electrics.
    You just can't beat Gore-Tex.
    Expensive for sure, but worth the money in my opinion.
  9. M N B

    M N B would rather be riding

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    There is no description of the features of the Latitude and hasn't been for months. It just says it's an updated Misano. Apparently KLIM doesn't care to sell that jacket or the matching pants.
  10. Kampfire

    Kampfire Trucky on two wheels

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    Hey Jeff, I'm up in Napa and have had around 6 or 7 Garmins. I'd be happy to go over it with you. Want to ride up and cruise the Valley for a lesson? You can see the Pirelli's again I bought from you.
    PM me if interested, I'll shoot you a #.
  11. joefromsf

    joefromsf Dark Happens

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    The following features for the Latitude Jacket are listed here: http://www.klim.com/Latitude-Jacket-5146-001.html#58624

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    • GORE-TEX® 2-LAYER PERFORMANCE SHELL
    • GUARANTEED TO KEEP YOU DRY®
    • D3O™ T5 EVO XT ELBOW AND SHOULDER PIECES INCLUDED (MEET AND/OR EXCEED LEVEL 1 LIMB PROTECTOR CE CERTIFICATION PREN16121-1:2011)
    • D3O™ BP XT PACK PIECE (CE CERTIFIED LEVEL 1 TO EN1621-2)
    • MISANO CORDURA® LAMINATE EXTERIOR IN MAIN BODY
    • 840D CORDURA® LAMINATE EXTERIOR IN HIGH ABRASION ZONES
    • HIGH-MOBILITY ACTIVE FIT PATTERNING
    • MAX FLOW VENTILATION: 5 PORTS
    • 2 ARM AND 2 PIT ZIPS INTAKES
    • 1 BACK EXHAUST
    • 6 EXTERNAL POCKETS [2 LONG CHEST “MAP” POCKETS, 3 CARGO POCKETS, 1 SLEEVE I.D. POCKET}
    • 4 INTERNAL POCKETS [2 ZIPPERED, 2 OPEN STASH}
    • 1 SECRET INTERNAL POCKET
    • MESH COMFORT LINER
    • JACKET-TO-PANT ZIPPER INTEGRATION SYSTEM
    • ZIPPERED WAIST/HIP EXPANSION PANEL
    • ADJUSTABLE WAIST CINCH STRAPS
    • 2 SLEEVE ADJUSTMENT STRAPS
    • LINED COMFORT COLLAR
    • VELCRO ADJUSTABLE WRIST CLOSURES
    • INDUSTRIAL GRADE 3M SCOTCHLITE™ REFLECTIVE PANELS AND TRIM
  12. scottmac

    scottmac Long timer

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    I have an older Latitude jacket I really like. I upgraded it with the
    newer D30 armor recently. Like M N B says though a four season jacket
    is still on the horizon.

    The Latitude is great in cold, normal, warm temps but not what you want
    to spend your day in when its 90 - 100 degrees plus out.
  13. Roadracer_Al

    Roadracer_Al louder, louder, louder!

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    Yep, it sure is a tough language. Very old, very peculiar grammar (agglutinative, i.e. all the grammar takes place with endings on nouns and verbs). And, there are only about 2 million native speakers, so it's hard to practice.

    Unless you're up to speed with Cyrillic, you won't be reading much Mongolian, and even then, there are 2 additional characters beyond the Russian alphabet which was added to represent sounds not used in Slavic languages!

    Mongolia is one of my favorite places, and I guess I am a bit of a cheerleader for Mongolia. My wife and I want to go back some day.

    What is the name of of the Mongolian language app?
  14. dman

    dman Been here awhile

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    Yesterday I spent 8 hours in the hot sun taking a civilian Dual Sport Training Class offered by the Alameda County (California) Sheriff's Office. I can't say enough about this class for helping a rusty old guy learn and practice some riding skills. I rode my own DR but the other 6 or 7 students all chose to rent one of the school bikes for $50. They were all DR650's, shod with D606's but otherwise stock, although many bent footpegs, missing turn signals etc. All were ex-patrol bikes with about 10K miles, and are used for police/agency and civilian training. Lots of clutch slipping, brake locking, and LOTS of tipovers on both pavement and dirt. The instructors told us the bikes are just bulletproof. Well, not literally, and in fact that's one of the topics of the officer training (using the bike as shelter from fire) but we didn't get into it in the civilian class.

    We started with pavement drills, then moved to the dirt, hundreds of acres to play in. If you've watched the TV show Mythbusters, this is where they blow things up. Two students came all the way from San Diego (400+ miles) but the rest of us were local. If you're in the area, or want to take a nice ride out here, I'd highly recommend the class.
    https://www.sheriffacademy.com/class.php?id=107

    The web site says you have to ride your own bike but is being corrected - there mare enough rental DR's for all students.

    -dman
  15. HardWorkingDog

    HardWorkingDog Harvey Mushman

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    Wow, didn't know about this. I took their civilian motorcycle (street) course about 5 years ago--very worthwhile. We got to use their trainer KZP1000's and learned some very useful skills.

    Highly recommended.
  16. dman

    dman Been here awhile

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    Saturday was the first time they offered the dual sport class. The DR650's looked showroom new compared to the the KZ1000's in the shed.

    -dman
  17. M N B

    M N B would rather be riding

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    I also took their street class about 6 or 7 years ago. The instructors are kind of like drill sergeants (some more harsh, some more pleasant), but they are excellent. I also highly recommend this class. You will practice threshold braking and avoidance maneuvers that might save your bacon on the street some time. I know for a fact the braking drills have saved my hide more than once.

    I'm wondering if I would gain anything from their DualSport class. I've done a few dirt clinics and have been riding dirt for a few years. Not very long compared to my 30+ years on the street, though. I'd probably haul my 2003 TE610 up there if I took the class. I could haul my TE310 up there, but I don't run street legal tires on it.
  18. dartmouth01

    dartmouth01 Noob

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    Hi all! My very first post on ADV, I've been lurking for the past few weeks, while I acquired dual sports for myself (XR650L) and my fiance (DR200SE). I've got a few years experience on the street, and alot of saddle time mtn biking, but my fiance is fresh off an MSF class. We just recently moved to the East Bay after travelling the country for a couple years, and many times we found ourselves saying how it would have been nice to have a dualsport bike to cover places we couldn't with the RV or truck. Just wanted to check in, and already learned something from this thread (the Alameda Country DS class!). Happy riding!
  19. HardWorkingDog

    HardWorkingDog Harvey Mushman

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    Welcome, dartmouth01!
  20. 1brunoj

    1brunoj bruno

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    Is there any thread url etc re the lost coast route from intersection Usal rd and hwy 1 to Shelter cove via Usal Rd then on to Ferndale via matole rd? Fire roads ? paved roads, jeep roads etc thanks Bruno