Bear Bangers

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  1. mnesci

    mnesci Adventure Dad

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    Anyone ever use these or know of where to buy them if they are affective? Friend of mine told me to get them for my trip to Alaska, but I have never heard of them.
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  2. Colorado Uli

    Colorado Uli Motociclista Non Elegante

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    Nope. Everyone I know uses bear spray in the western US.
    What is it? And how is it supposed to work? Curious.
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  3. HighScore

    HighScore No More, all done.

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    Dont waste your money. Bears are harmless. :rofl
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  4. H96669

    H96669 A proud pragmatist.

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    Neighbor used one at that huge old bear that was hanging around here last fall.:wink:

    Knocked the bear out for 3-4 minutes, then it got up and staggered back into the bush.:eek1

    I tought I gave the old bear a heart attack he said.:lol3 Poor old bear, biggest tracks I ever saw in my driveway and the neighbor's pics, easy 6-700 lbs that one.:huh

    Yep they work...!:lol3
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  5. gunnerbuck

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    Bear bangers are fired from a pen flare launcher... The banger rocket exits the launcher and travels about 20-30 meters before exploding with a concussion blast similar to a 20 guage shotgun... If done right they can be effective at breaking a bears focus and cause it to turn tail and bugger off... Ideally you want the blast to happen between you and the bear and not on the other side clear past it as this may cause the bear to exit towards you... I would still carry spray as a second line of defence and hold your composure until the bear is close enough to spray it up the nostrils...
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  6. Colorado Uli

    Colorado Uli Motociclista Non Elegante

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    Ahhh, kind of like a flash-bang used by the law and the military.

    Thanks!
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  7. BUZZARD II

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    Speaking of which, I was at a gun show a few weeks ago and this guy was selling 12 guage Flash/bangs. He also had 12 ga. flamethrower rounds and some sort of 12 ga. Russian artillery simulator. All pretty cool stuff for bear protection. Three round packs for $28.

    It's been kind of dry around here, I passed on burning down the neighborhood.
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  8. Spud99

    Spud99 Been here awhile

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    Bear Bangers
    5 Feet medium hog casings
    4 lb Bear meat, trimmed of all fat, cubed
    1 lb Pork fat, cubed
    2 1/2 ts Salt
    2 ts Black pepper
    1 ts Celery seed
    1/2 ts Dried thyme leaves
    1/2 ts Dried savory
    1/2 c Dry red wine

    Prepare casings. Combine ingredients and grind through the coarse disk. Grind through the fine disk, stuff casings, and tie off into 3" links. Age in the refrigerator for two days. Cook as for fresh pork sausage.

    Serve with a nice side of mashed potatoes and there you go - Bear Bangers and Mash
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  9. MoToad

    MoToad Been here awhile

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    :rofl I''ll have to try that recipe the next time I scare one to death with my Banger. And, yes, I do have that. Bought it and six charges at my local fishing store. Stopped on a fire road last summer and tried one out. Amazingly loud bang along with a agreat flash and smoke. Loved it. Does it work? Yet to find out. One thing, takes a minute to reload.:1drink
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  10. mnesci

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    Those "Bear bangers" sound taste! might just attract a few hungry bears!..........Can these Bear Bangers be transported over the Canadian border? Heres a cheap, fun idea......Maybe just by some good fireworks in Iowa/Wisconsin(Illegal to sell in Illinois) and stuff them in my bags and light/throw at bears when needed. A M100 would do a good job of scaring the Black bears.....maybe a brick of firecrackers for a Grizzly.
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  11. H96669

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    Don't know if legal bringing them across the border. But my friend has a proper "pistol" flares and bangers thrower. Expensive at $200.00 but sure looks cool and even "intimidating" to bipedals. Not a plastic jobbie that thing, nice blued steel and bought legally in Vancouver.:wink:

    As far as I know them are legal in Canada. They certainly work much better than the pencil type ones for aiming.:wink:

    Bangers and Mash....good old British food with a Canadian twist!:lol3

    Don't worry....I do have fireworks and a way to shoot them safely without planting them in the ground. Only problem with them is not starting a forest fire and they kind of shoot too far.:lol3

    Still....my airhorn does the trick all the time with bears and then if you get in trouble the morse code "Mayday", that still works.
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  12. Dusty Boots

    Dusty Boots Been here awhile

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    While they are legal to buy north of the border, you might have a problem taking them back into the US(?)
    They work well enough if used as described above. .... as long as the bear is at least 100' away from you, with a clear line of fire.
    IIRC, I paid $28 for mine from an outdoor gear store and along with the pen launcher, it came with 2 or 3 bear bangers and a couple of different coloured flares

    This place sells them, but I'm pretty sure you can buy them cheaper elsewhere, once you're up here.
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    They're pretty effective if used properly, like said above, fired and exploded between you and the bear. Typically, they're fired vertically with the intent to create a loud diversion. Sometimes, it'll just stop the bear in it's trax, then sometimes it'll continue on it's 25 mph rush towards you. A friend of mine bought one, and when he showed it to me, I had to laugh. He had purchased the red signal flares, not the bangers. :rofl They also come in a smoke signal type for day use.
    My backup plan is a Defender 12 gauge pistol grip shotgun with slugs. :D
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  14. gunnerbuck

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    There is a revolving turret version of the flare/ banger launcher, it holds three ready to go in the turret and 2 in the handle, much quicker to fire off a second or third volley if required...
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    I always leave the chamber under the striker empty when transporting for safety sake...
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    The handle also holds 2 rounds..
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  15. sorebutt

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    It sounds like false security to me. If a bear wants you they will cover 100 feet before you can shit yourself. If they don't want you there is no problem. You can't use one if a bear decides to come in your tent.

    The best thing is just use common sense and keep a clean camp. Prevention is the best practice.

    However, they do look like a lot of fun to play with.
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    Yes, the odds are for sure in the bears favor if he's coming into your tent... The bear bangers are limited to certain conditions the same as pepper spray { my choice between the 2 would be the spray} and neither are a sure bet, but better than nothing ... A few years back we had a wolf come right into our camp and no amount of shouting could break its focus... I ended up driving it off with many volleys of firewood off our campfire... This wolfs intentions were very unclear and I'm sure if I had the launcher with me it would of ended up being a much less intense encounter than we experienced...
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  17. TwoShots

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    Same here. I can't help but ask them how it would work. Something along the lines of "How do you get the bear to sit still long enough to spray it?"
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  18. thetourist

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    I'm with Sorebutt on this one. I've seen a black bear at a full extended run. They are seriously fast. Google said up to 40 mph.

    A bear 100 ft away wouldn't cause most people any distress. Time to get the camera, right?

    30 mph is 44 ft per second. That bear is two seconds away. What can you do in two seconds from "lets take a picture" to "Oh my god, save me"
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  19. inbred

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    Always wondered what was the right course of action. You are alone in your tent. In the middle of the night you hear a bear or two prowling just on the other side of the tent's wall. Let's assume it's a very hungry pair of male black bears. Your fully in your bag and next to you is a small compressed air horn, small container of bear spray and a seven inch Gerber dagger. What do you do?
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  20. thetourist

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    Roll over and go back to sleep. You were having a bad dream.

    Bears are solo animals, unless mother and cubs.

    If the bears are not conditioned to humans, they went on guard when you stopped snoring. As you open the tent zipper they will be high tailing for the woods.

    If conditioned to people they will watch to see what you are going to do, or keep on grubbing for whatever. Don't breathe if you have sausage breath. :lol3

    I have seen a lot of bears and they are almost always headed the other way as fast as possible. Sometimes they get preoccupied with eating and you can surprise one, which is why you should make a bit of noise while walking in bear country.

    Bears around an often used campground will have a route/routine going to garbage cans and fire pits to see what they can find. They are opportunistic feeders and will eat anything, and go to unbelievable lengths to get tiny bits of food. Is your tent sitting on top of spilled bacon grease or rasberry syrup from the last camper. I don't often use organized campgrounds.
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