Beginning of the end for CA bikers?

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by hefy_jefy, Jul 27, 2014.

  1. hefy_jefy

    hefy_jefy Been here awhile

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  2. jesusgatos

    jesusgatos fishing with dynamite

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    The way I read that, the guidelines are being treated like sex education. Better not to promote it, or even to discuss how to do it safely. Don't think that means it's going to become illegal.
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    jesusgatos fishing with dynamite

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    Honestly can't believe that splitting lanes is legal in CA, of all places. But it's only legal because there is not a law that specifically prohibits it. Had read those guidelines before, while searching for laws regarding lane-splitting. Can see how guidelines could be interpreted as some kind of rules to follow, but there are no laws regarding lane-splitting. Would not surprise me at all if CA outlaws lane-splitting, but doubt it'll have anything to do with this. Someone just got upset because they thought law enforcement officers were endorsing it by publishing those guidelines. There's something about it in the CA DMV handbook too. Wonder if they'll remove it.
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  4. OldPete

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    What a thread title! You sir are an asshat. :kat
    Nothing was remove, it was just move and made harder to find because a fellow asshat got his panties in a wad. Mkay?

    The sky is not falling. We can even buy CHP helmets w/o the logo. Sheesh, get a grip.
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  5. Colorado_Rider

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    Yes, very lame thread title. Lane splitting might actually be embraced by this point if not for the buttplugs that abuse the privilage.
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  6. mach1mustang351

    mach1mustang351 Long timer

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    The way I understand it lane splitting became legal in California because of the Olympics in 1984. It was nearly impossible to make it around the city with the increased traffic, couriers rode bikes and were able to split lanes to keep the commerce rolling... may not be true. Something I was told.
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  7. OldPete

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    At age 8 in 1955, standing between my Dad's legs holding onto the Pontiac's streering wheel I can recall motorcycles passing between cars.

    Lane sharing, splitting traffic or filtering has never been ill-eagle in California.

    http://www.menifee247.com/2007/06/why-lane-splitting-is-legal-in.htm

    "Lane splitting" is what someone does when he or she rides their motorcycle in between slow-moving cars on a freeway. The article says that this practice goes way back to the days when all motorcycles had air-cooled engines, and needed to keep moving to prevent overheating.

    I suppose there's some truth to that, though today, many air-cooled motorcycles don't overheat when stopped on freeways.

    The reason why California remains as the only state in the union to allow lane-splitting is because of safety.

    Several years ago, lawmakers in Sacramento drafted a bill to make lane-splitting illegal, thinking it would save more lives. However, the California Highway Patrol lobbied against the bill, on grounds that it cause more bikers to die.

    That is, if motorcyclists were forced to wait behind slow moving or stopped vehicles, they run the risk of getting rear-ended by other vehicles. This happens all too often on freeways, where drivers fail to pay attention to stopped traffic up ahead. Rear ending a motorcycle is almost always fatal for the biker.

    That's why the CHP wants bikers to split lanes, to protect them from drivers not paying attention.

    The CHP used accident fatality data compiled by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration to show that a frequent cause of deaths in motorcycle accidents in other states are car drivers rear-ending motorcycles.

    That's why the California State Legislature changed its mind and allowed lane-splitting to remain legal.

    I put about 30,000 miles each year on my two motorcycles. I've witnessed many "rear-end" accidents between two cars on the freeway. When a car gets rear-ended, the driver usually survives. But when it happens to a motorcycle, the biker almost always dies. If lane-splitting were legal in all 50 states, a lot more people would be alive today.
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    Lame is putting it very mildly,makes less then no sense as a title.
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    I honestly can't understand why lane splitting is illegal in much of the USA, when it is legal and normal in most of the rest of the world… It certainly is in all the 15 or more European, Asian and Oceanic countries I have ridden in.

    It is encouraged in some, with a box at the front of the lane at traffic lights, that motorcycles can filter up to.

    Perhaps it is because those big fat All American style motorcycles take up almost half as much space as a small car. The smaller, narrower machines that I am more familiar with, make much more efficient use of road space, and parking space.
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    That's the only reason anything is legal. Because there's no law against it. In a free society, you are free to do anything, unless there is a law against it. You don't need a law to give permission to do something, unless it would be otherwise prohibited by another law.
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    How free are we?
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  14. mongox

    mongox ARRRRGH!!!

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    The CHP will not let it be made illegal. If it is illegal, than they can't do it. And in the LA basin, they need to be able to split lanes to respond to accidents and other emergency calls where a car cannot make it.
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    LEO/1st responders can't do that in other states?
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    Thanks! That made my morning. :rofl
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  17. mongox

    mongox ARRRRGH!!!

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    Other states don't have LA traffic.

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    Not going to help. THe anti filering/lane splitting laws in my state as well as the Uniform Vehicle Code from which they are drawn are not applicable to police performing their duties, by explicit statement. It's really not hard to make police responding to an emergency exempt from a law. I would guess that you could find examples of the in the California Vehicle Code.

    Not that I'm advocating outlawing lane splitting in CA, I'm not, I'm just saying the police thing isn't going to stop it, or even make a speedbump.
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  20. Human Ills

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    Since it has never been outlawed, it's always been legal.
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