Belgium & Netherlands (July 2013)

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  1. Luckies_AUT

    Luckies_AUT Adventurer

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    Hi there!

    We've planned to visit the FIM Rally in Epernay, France, in July. From there I would like to ride thru Belgium and Netherlands. Then we'll cross Germany to get back to Vienna. All together in one week.

    - no big cities
    - no interstates

    What I want to see ..
    in Netherlands
    + Gouda (because of the cheese *g)
    + see some "Water roads" (just riding along)
    + see some of the BIG fields of flowers

    in Belgium
    absolute no idea (I know nothing about Belgium :shog)

    Any ideas which areas we shouldn't miss?


    Thank you very much!
    Dave
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  2. GvG

    GvG Been here awhile

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    If you want to see the flower fields.....come back next year in May.

    IMHO the best water roads are in Giethoorn.....they only have water roads and no normal roads, so no riding along.

    Or do you just want to ride along a (big) river?
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  3. RTLover

    RTLover Long timer

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    From Epernay, go north around Reims to Charleville-Mezieres, go around it to the west and pick up the D1. Follow it until you reach the Semoy River and follow it easterly on the D31 then D914 then D819 to the highway N89. If you're interested in WW2, go to Bastogne. If not, follow the N89 north to La Roche-en-Ardenne, then meander toward the GP track at Spa. From there, can't help, gets too congested. The Ardenne is green, hilly, and not too overrun, although you'll see lots of bikes.
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  4. Luckies_AUT

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    Thx for your advices!!

    GvG, long time ago I've heard you can cross the Netherlands almost on "Water Roads". This way of travelling still sounds nice to me and I'm interested in how it feels like. Riding along on the bike is quite the same .. maybe. Maybe we'll make an excursion in Giethoorn. ;)

    RTLover, of course I've heard about the Ardenne and your route looks great. :thumb
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  5. GvG

    GvG Been here awhile

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    You can cross the Netherlands on water. If you use the smaller canals it takes a long time. You can also follow the bigger rivers.
    So the Meuse, Rhine (has different arms in the Netherlands and some have the word Rijn in them, but not all....such as Lek and Waal), IJssel.

    To go north-south along the water you can do
    Maastricht-Nijmegen-Zwolle-Groningen-Delfzijl
    (Meuse-IJssel-Meppelerdiep-Drentsche Hoofdvaart-Noord Willemskanaal-Eemskanaal)
    or
    Maastricht-Nijmegen-Amsterdam-Den Helder
    (Meuse-Rhine-Noordzee Kanaal)

    Just take a look here on wiki. These are the major rivers and canals.

    River= fun and twisty (twisty for a flat country anyway)
    if it ends with 'vaart' or 'kanaal' it's man made and straight.

    Parts of the roads along the Waal, Lek and Nederrijn (I don't know about the Meuse and IJssel) are closed for motorcycles (sometimes only weekends and Feiertage). It's hit and miss if you're not a local.
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  6. Luckies_AUT

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    Btw., are there any interesting roads/regions for motorcycles? All I know about Netherlands: flat, windmills, flowers and cheese.

    How about camping? Is it free or only on campgrounds?
    How about accommondations (bed & breakfast)? Are they easy to find?
    A friend told me, the porn industry is big in Netherlands. is it better to ride alone? :D

    Sorry, I'm too busy these days but I hope it gets better next week. *pfff
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  7. GvG

    GvG Been here awhile

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    Interesting roads......sure.....the Aflsluitdijk, Pijlerdam and Houtribdijk. All kilometers of straight roads, but with water left and right.
    Interesting for motorcycles....around Maastricht (about the only elevation we have) and on the dikes along the rivers or some very specific local roads (such as the road from Holten to Nijverdal through a national park). There's a reason you see so many Dutch motorcycles in the Eifel in weekends and the Alps in summer. :D

    Camping only on campgrounds.

    No idea about B&B's...I never have to use them.

    Better to ride alone? Just leave your wife in the B&B when you're going to visit a Red Light District :evil
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