Best adventure bike for an ole fart?

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by my3sons59, Apr 9, 2013.

  1. cug

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    That's why I suggested making it a nice weekend, maybe even a long weekend in a big city somewhere. Fly there on a Friday or even Thursday evening, take the wife, make appointments at as many of the dealers as you can to test ride most of the bikes that are interesting.

    Then go and enjoy the weekend with the wife. Done. Combined something that seems to be bothering the OP to no end with a weekend in a potentially nice city that was worth traveling there just by itself ...
  2. pluric

    pluric Gimpy Adventurer

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    Oh there you go making sense again.:D

    I still doubt he will be able to do any off road on any test. If I had tried the TriumphXC for a short
    ride I don't think I would have been interested. After an hour in the saddle I got use to the seating
    and thought "Maybe for this motor I could live with the set/peg relationship.

    I also tend to be easily pleased and figure I can tweak most anything to fit if needed. Or just
    buy the Tenere and be done.:deal:wink::D
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    Ah, sorry. I wanted to stop that ... :norton
  4. BryanCO

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    I'm not trying to argue, but I guess the point is that we are all different and place different priorities on different aspects of the bikes and ownership. I would wait until I was able to ride a bike before buying. It's not important to me to get one of the first bikes. It's great that yours ended up being a favorite.

    Again, 12 hrs is not silly at all, nor a 'perfect world'. Geez, I'll spend 12 hours at my local dealer - only a slight exaggeration... And, in those circumstances where local dealers didn't allow test rides (generally the Japanese brands), I have been able to reach out to owners whom offered up their bikes - owners whom I had previously not met.
  5. pluric

    pluric Gimpy Adventurer

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    Never took it as any type of argument. The OP made it clear that testing each suggested
    bike would be hard for him. He has been very interested in owners likes and dislikes of
    models they own. When the standard "Go ride it" just isn't going to work you get as good
    a feel as you can from owners. Try to see through the pride of ownership hype and make
    as good of a judgment call as you can.

    If someone feels they flat cannot buy a bike, car, boat, bicycle or internet wife without
    trying it first so be it.

    If the option to try it out isn't there then the next best thing is listening to others
    experience. A fifteen minute ride isn't going to let you know what your butt will feel
    like 500 miles later anyway.
  6. Matt fe2o3

    Matt fe2o3 Long timer

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    Picking up the bike - You need to work on your "CORE STRENGTHS" - fuck I hate hearing that phrase...my "Core Strengths" invove getting through the honey do list and a 12 pack on a good Saturday. :lol3
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    pluric Gimpy Adventurer

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  8. Elbiluco

    Elbiluco Adventurer

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    I bought an S10 a week before Christmas. I broke my leg on Christmas day! No, not on the bike. Dont ask!
    At 42, things dont heal like they used to. Ive always heard people say that.....Now I know why....
    Anyways for the last couple of weeks Ive been able to ride it on some short distances. Last week I took a couple of hours ride. I like it. Very nice. Dont bash any other bikes because I dont know about them, and I truly love anything that goes fast and has two wheels. I must say I like the S10, more so with my beautiful wife riding two up! Godspeed!
    Jos 24:17:wings
  9. my3sons59

    my3sons59 Adventurer

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    If the Wee had a shaft drive, it would be the PERFECT sub-1000cc adv bike. IMO, the chain is about the only strike against this otherwise nice bike. Am I the only one that has a pathological hatred for chains, their mess, maintenance, etc.? (another of my bike hangups that I'll blame on the Gold Wing...spoiling me)

  10. Red Dust

    Red Dust Been here awhile

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    Have a look at the new KTM1190R, if you can find a better adventure touring bike congratulations! Worth the money? Suppose it depends where you live, here in Australia it will cost quite a bit.
    Good tank range (probably up to 450 km`s = 280 miles), massive power (100 or 150 crank hp depending setting of mode), low weight 230-235 kg full tanked (at least for this kind of bike), comfy (according to others), very capable off road. If money would be no object and it would be available I would get one yesterday guaranteed!
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    I actually hate chains probably as much as you do. But on the other hand: there isn't all too much to do for them to be honest. About every 300 to 500 miles I put the bike on the centerstand after a ride, turn on the engine, put it in 1st gear so that the wheel is turning and the chain moving and put some Dupont Dry Lube on.

    Also, I check the chain tension visually at the same time. Takes about five minutes. I have a chain oiler sitting on the shelf, waiting to be installed, but I'm too lazy and I think it'll create more mess on the bike and I might just live with the above procedure ... And yes, I hate chains, I think they are anachronistic shit from the 60s that have no place on a modern road bike. I still live with them. Although I'm still wondering whether there's a way to get a belt drive on my Tiger.
  12. Red Dust

    Red Dust Been here awhile

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    Chains are not too bad, yes they need changing every 30000 km`s (1875 miles) depending quality of the gear and other factors, some people can manage way more than that. I use Dupont teflon lube only once in awhile, ride on dirt roads and creek crossings and can manage more than 20000 km`s before I adjust the chain. Probably spend $300 in 30000 km`s on chain/sprockets and lube.
    Lube the chain just take a few second if you have it on the centre stand.
    Chain/shaft will not be a decision factor for me, they both good.
  13. stevie88

    stevie88 That's gotta hurt

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    Hey Red Dust. Doesn't it get hot is Australia?
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    Left off a zero :deal 30k km's is almost 19 thousand miles, not 19 hundred

    I have a friend who never lubes the chain on his DR-Z400SM and got 25,000 miles from the first chain, and has 40,000 miles on the original sprockets.

    +1 on the Dupont teflon lube
  15. Red Dust

    Red Dust Been here awhile

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    I`m sure the bike will not be hotter than my R1 was before changing my exhaust, that bike left me impotent..... now it is a cool bike.
    Have not tried the 1190 as yet but I`m confident that it will not be noticeable.
    We do have Winters here, kind of and some nights can be cool and some places it does even snow but not in Queensland.
    If you think the KTM will be too hot, try a stock 2004 R1 at the traffic lights when it is 40 Celcius in protective clothing...... boiling hot even sauna hot.
    It is a nice Winter bike though.
  16. Red Dust

    Red Dust Been here awhile

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    Sorry. it should have been 18750 miles.
    Think I will go for a shaft next time if I can find any $ in my budget for a XT1200, low mileage. Most/everyone that owns them seems to like them.
    It seems to be a "lot" of bike for the money not many issues.
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    235 kg to us yanks is 518lb .. after you start adding on luggage, one could be creeping up on 600lb...

    NO way I'm picking that up on dirt ... maybe with a winch.
  18. Red Dust

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    Yes it is still heavy but think it is the lightest 1200cc Adv bike.

    After watching the last video of the AUS/NZ promo video it seems to be able to tackle a little bit of dirt at least. Of course for real off road you want a light bike but it is surprising what you can still do with one of these heavy weights.
    I believe all the electronics help a lot.
    On YouTube there is a clip that shows how "simple" it is to lift the almost 600 pounds XT1200 if it is laying on the ground, just need the right technique.

    Also if you traveling around Australia or somewhere remote and you got really bad roads e.t.c. I think it will be ok and more comfy than a real trial bike.
    I think that is the purpose of these giants, to travel in comfort and also be able to ride on bad roads.
    Mind you the 230 kilos (506 pounds) is with a full 23 litre tank (6 gallon).
    Of course a 200-250 pound trial bike would be better but at my age I would not take it on long distance touring, guess they only have a couple of gallons tanks as well.
    If I ever get a 1200 adv bike I will leave the real off road adventure for others but love to ride on dirt roads and forest tracks.
    I have had a lot of fun with my DL650 but after 6 years with it I`m thinking about move on to something else, money wise I think a 2nd hand XT1200 will tick most boxes I have.
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    Happy Snapper GOMOB.

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    You will love your xt1200.

    I know I do.. Easier to ride slow than my KLR650.

    That means a lot when you're nearly 60!
  20. Ockrocket

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    55,000 km on the first chain on my '09 Wee, along with the front sprocket [@ 67,*** km now still with the original rear sprocket on the bike going strong].

    Intermittent lubrication, when I feel like it.

    The bike does 70% tar, 30% dirt and is ridden all year round [it is also my work commuter, as well as weekend ride and long distance loaded tourer].

    Nothing hard about chains in my book.....and better than the last shaft repair bill I got for the now gone, but not missed, BMW R1150GS. :deal

    Chain also gives you the option of tweaking the ratio to suit your personal riding needs, going bush and need a nice crawler first gear- no problem, swap a sprocket, want to go the other way for taller highway top gear, swap a sprocket- cheap and easy.