Best Bear Gun?

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  1. Apxgrndr

    Apxgrndr In the snow

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    That Scout scope is medium eye relief, if you've never tried one it's pretty quick for target acquisition, I also use weaver quick release rings so its very easy to go to the ghost ring sights.
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  2. Kubla

    Kubla Long timer

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    what is the barrel length on that shot gun, looks shorter than the 18 inch US minimum length (without the class 3 license)
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  3. John E

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    explain the reason why alternating between buckshot and slugs is a good idea?

    I've seen it recommended many, many times and it makes absolutely no sense to me.

    If I need a slug why in the world would I be loading a round of buckshot in between what I need to stop the threat?
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  4. morerpmfred

    morerpmfred Been here awhile

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    In Canada we are not restricted to 18 inch barrel lengths on pump action shotguns as they are in the states. My pump action shottie looks the same and it has a 14 1/2 barrel length as it was manufactured that way. It is legal for hunting as well.
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  5. mud

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    We did a trip out to York Factory from Lake Winnipeg. The bears you are dealing with out there are polar bears. There are a whole bunch of things you can do too try and deter a polar bear, but it pretty much it came down to a 12 ga with slugs. Even at that you are probably just going to convince it you are not worth the effort, hopefully.....
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  6. Apxgrndr

    Apxgrndr In the snow

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    Yeah one good thing about our gun laws:

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  7. fastdadio

    fastdadio Still gettin faster

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    Here's another thought. While I agree with the suggestions in both the guide gun and the shotgun as being effective close range bear stoppers, the OP did state that he did not hunt. so, with that bit of info, I would highly recommend the 12ga. simply because of the overall versitility. With the proper loads, It can double duty as a home defense gun. Also, as a hiker, there are 12ga. flares that may be carried into remote areas for emergency signaling. I think a good defensive pump 12 could be found on the used market for less $$. A pump gun can be put into action faster and repeatedly cycled faster without losing your sight plane or changing your hold on the gun which is much easier for a novice to pick up on . There is a difference between a good hunting gun and a good defense type gun, and I think the OP is really needing something leaning more toward the defensive end.
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  8. Jurgen

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    +1


    :nod-- A short as legal 12 gauge. For AK consider one like the "Marine Coat" ones. Or have it sprayed with a weatherproof coating. Put a big dot site on the front and you are good to go for not much $$.
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  9. Jurgen

    Jurgen Trolljegeren Super Moderator

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    For some of the new uber expensive aimpoints the battery life is years-- on.

    I want one, but just can't wrap my head around the price. :lol3
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  10. fastdadio

    fastdadio Still gettin faster

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    In the time it took me to type that last long winded opinion, a couple of other posts came in. Concerning barrel length, just a little fun fact here. It takes about 20" of barrel to completely burn the average powder charge and thereby, provide for max velocity. In our discussion here, I think velocity would be a very high concern and would want as much as I could get.

    Polar bears around Lake Winnipeg?? Really???
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  11. skysailor

    skysailor Rat Rider

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    Think I'll go with a short barrelled pump 12. Bird shot for "lunch" in survival situations. Small enough to pack IN a backpack. Really like the flare capabilities. Don't like the pistol grips though. Tried one and my right wrist was hamburger for two days! Again, I don't hunt.
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  12. fastdadio

    fastdadio Still gettin faster

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    It's also very hard to aquire and hold your sight picture with a pistol grip pump gun. Best to be able to pull it in tight and hold it there while you work it.
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  14. mud

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    No no.... Out in Hudson bay. They hang around Churchill and York Factory.
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  15. Neil E.

    Neil E. Been here awhile

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    I agree with you completely. Maybe these folks are shooting at multiple zombies. Buckshot for those about to bite and slugs for the ones just coming over the wall?

    Carry the correct ammo for the target you expect. Tube magazine pumps are easy to reload on the fly so carrying other types of ammo does make sense if conditions change.

    As one poster mentioned don't go too short on barrel length, slug loads use slower burning powder. 18" is a good practical minimum. Try some loads at dusk in different barrel lengths; a big flame indicates lost velocity (powder not burned in the barrel).
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  16. Range Motorsport

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    Ruger 10/22 Yep I said it because A1FA isn't here to spread his knowledge on how the .22 is the ultimate rifle round.

    I would go 12ga smooth barrel. Slugs, buck shot, bird shot, target it will shoot em all.
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  17. mr. matteeanne

    mr. matteeanne Bender can pass him

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    From all I have heard there is pretty much no such thing as shooting an attacking grizzly? Your as good as dead? Anyone ever successfully done it? How many have tried and failed?
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  18. Jurgen

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    I recall a recent story, Idaho I believe. Kid hunting with his Dad and another adult. Kid slightly apart from the adults. They here a shot or two go and investigate and find one live teenager, one dead bear. IIRC it was with a 44 magnum revolver.
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  19. Jurgen

    Jurgen Trolljegeren Super Moderator

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    And here is another:

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  20. Jurgen

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    http://www.jhnewsandguide.com/article.php?art_id=6025
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