Best mount for iphone with the 650?

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  1. lilmonkey

    lilmonkey Been here awhile

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    Any suggestions on iphone mounts? I want to be able to use it as my GPS. Not sure if RAM mount is the best way to go, just taking a bit of a poll.

    Thanks!
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    Get a tank bag with a map case on top and stick it in there.

    You're going to want some power going to it from the bike because the battery will only last about an hour or so with both the GPS and screen on.

    You also have to consider that most of the maps for most of the GPS software out there is downloaded on the fly from the internet so if you ride in an area with no signal you have no maps and thus no directions.
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    The iPhone has a hair trigger moisture sensor, and should it get misted on or even exposed to high humidity, Apple will void your warranty in the event you need it repaired. Vibration will wreak havoc with the internal electronics. And the GPS drains the battery in a little more than an hour. Bottom line, you may want to reconsider your plan.

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  5. lilmonkey

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    Yep. All great points.

    Already have my power/tank bag covered. I used it in the map pocket and it overheated in an hour.

    The map issue...Got it.

    Just trying to get down to one device. I think it will work for what I'm needing it for...

    One thing for moisture protection that I've seen, are un-lubed Magnum condoms. Not that I'd want to be explaining that one. I'd be nervous enough to pull it if it got rainy and go "old school" paper at that point.

    Thanks for the feedback.


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    Ninthlord Cadmium Enriched

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    I found a mount on Amazon for $18 and it came with a neoprene Biceps carrier AND a stylus. Handlebar mount works great, never used the arm-thingy, but the stylus was a huge bonus for gloved hands. Don't be dissuaded by the Luddites. The day of the dedicated electronic device has long passed. I use my 3G exclusively - music, GPS, still camera, video...and I even use it as a phone. Get a bluetooth headset and you have all the capabilities of a full dresser.
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  8. lilmonkey

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    Just picked up a Sena BT system for the helmet....partially the reason for the mount..or I'm going to fashion a case to velcro to the top of the tank bag.
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  9. lilmonkey

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    Does the BioLogic case have any kind of venting? Seems like a plastic heat coffin. Mine overheated in my tankbag if it was in the sun for more than hour. Dont think it helped my phone much.
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  10. bodhizafa

    bodhizafa How hard can it be?

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    I got Sena system too. I got a GPS mount for the bars, not specific for an iphone but it works and was only $20 at REI. I am worried about the heat though. I think it may cook it, might just use it for short trips with mapquest.
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  11. JRWooden

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    I'd like to get down to one device also...
    I have the "MotionX" GPS app. which for $15 is very clever.
    It is advertised to be able to download topo/street maps ahead of time, I have not tried that function yet.

    Apple warns about exposing the iPhone to direct sunlight... direct sunlight in a condom / coffin ( :lol3 ) makes it worse.... not sure we have any answer for that ... ???

    The vibration worries me from a reliability standpoint, but if people mount them on mountain bikes without issue ... :wink:
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    Ninthlord Cadmium Enriched

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    The mount that I got from Amazon is actually for a mountain bike. It has a crystallographic ocillating chip for vibration/stabilization.

    Not really. It's just a plastic clamp. It works great in 99.44% of conditions I ride in.

    Don't overthink this.
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    NO damit! I want the crystallographic ocillating chip :rofl
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    Dansrc51 I need a cape....

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    I've tried to get a response to this in the GPS forum...

    I downloaded MotionX, but when I use it the movement of my position is, for lack of a better term, jumpy. It is not a continual smooth motion across the map. I've checked settings and even preloaded maps. Any idea what I'm doing wrong?

    I have a Garmin Oregon and a Ram mount for the 800, which works fine, but I wouldn't mind having the Iphone set up as well.
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  15. Bushav8r

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    You could try one of these. http://www.magellangps.com/Products/iPhone-Products/toughcase
    It will protect your phone from the elements and increase battery life as well as make it a better GPS. I am not sure about your mounting options as they only appear to have a automotive mount for it. This would at least provide external power and you might be able to modify the mount to make it work on your bike.
    I have one for my iPod Touch and I really like it.
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  16. The Griz

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    This looks to be a winner actually. You would, like you said, just have to figure out how the heck to mount it to the motorcycle though.
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    The shirtless one is correct, but then, you may also want to give this some thought:

    The Magellan case may solve your water intrusion problem, but assuming you can find some way of mounting it, it won't do anything to solve your vibration problem unless this chimerical mount provides some dampening like the Touratech offering.

    While the Magellan case does "double" the battery time, that still leaves you with a dead iPhone after two hours. I don't know about your riding style, but I often do two hours before breakfast when I'm touring.

    You won't able to download and install alternate maps (topos, etc.), or other rider's GPS tracks, or plan routes on your home computer. So the iPhone may give you a pretty good idea of where you are (for two hours), it won't give you much else, like the best way (shortest, fastest, most scenic) to get to where you want to go.

    I use the Navigon app on my iPhone (in my car), and it does a pretty good job of routing and has a fair selection of POIs, but it doesn't hold a candle to the maps and data I have in my dedicated Garmin 276C. Navigon has zero info about dirt roads, for instance, whereas the Garmin shows roads that may not even exist in meatspace.

    I also us the MotionX app (on my bicycle), but it isn't much good for anything but pin pointing your location, giving you your average speed, and keeping track of where you've been. Oh, and sending your location to friends on Facebook. :rolleyes

    So what will you be able to use the iPhone for? Routing yourself to work on your commute?

    Don't get me wrong, I love gadgets. I bought the very first 128K Mac back in 1984, and have owned a passel of them since. I stood in line all day for the first iPhone. Few things give me more pleasure than the latest electronic device.

    But most tools are suited for a few specific purposes, and using an iPhone as your primary GPS on a motorcycle seems like a little of the "if all you have is a hammer, then everything looks like a nail" syndrome.

    And it sounds like something Ned Ludd would do. :evil

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  18. The Griz

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    Good points here.
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    Shoot an email to MotionX ?
    I have found them very responsive!
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  20. Bushav8r

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    Garmin and Magellan both have apps now for the iPhone that would appear to make it function as well as a dedicated GPS unit. http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/garmin-streetpilot/id411462555?mt=8 http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/magellan-roadmate-north-america/id339245236?mt=8 I haven't tried them myself as they are quite expensive. They would be cheaper than buying a new GPS though. I prefer to use a dedicated GPS device, but it would be nice to be able to consolidate all gadgets into one unit. I think the iPhone and similar phones are starting to come close. I hate having to deal with multiple gadgets and their associated chargers when I am on trip someplace.
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