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Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by Tonk, Oct 7, 2013.
Ha, well actually that was the center stand install...she offered to help and I wasn't going to say no! Nice of the guy in two of the shots to show up by the way Again, bummed I had to miss the Death Valley ride you just got back from.
Regarding LA traffic: California is huge, you don't have to live in one of it's largest cities if you don't want to. Massive opportunities to reside with fewer people around. The girl pictured working on the bike grew up in the mountains in a town of 3,000 people.
Having said that I often ride up to LA for work or for fun and the traffic, while bad at times, is manageable on a motorcycle and/if you pick your departure times around it. Good enough compromise for me.
We also have the fastest and most efficient road crews. From 5 lanes to 10 without photoshop. They must have finished that 405 construction project overnight.
Yes, but the real tragedy, as shown, is that we all went to see it the next day, and it was once again a total mess. All for nothing.
"back when I used to drive around Los Angeles, my shitty job was 9 miles away and it was about an hour and a half drive. I could have ran there faster....."
It AMAZES me that you'd post about a shitty commute in LA on a MOTORCYCLE enthusiast site
Anybody that spends that kind of time commuting is just silly IMHO. It would have been 10 minutes on a bike.
I had to commute through LAX and a second job in OC. It was fun.
You lane split at 60MPH? :huh
Face it, your utopia is not EVERYONE's utopia!
I've lane split at ninety... and been passed but the POINT was why in the hell would you choose to commute in a car in frikken LA? It's completely optional, and a bad option. A Bicycle makes more sense than a car in LA especially for a 9 mile commute!
And if you actually LOOK at the picture, bottom center you'll see a biker and the blue car in front of him is hugging the right side of the lane to give the bike space. THe Bike's got wide open freeway EVEN in traffic. Which is why lane splitting is ONE MORE benefit to a myriad of others that make it the best place to live / ride year round.
That quote was from someone else. No way would I live in LA much less commute there.
You are so full of BS.
Again I ask, if you are so smart why are you not in LALA instead of WAWA?
Most people in LA Don't commute. ANd seriously LA's traffic is not as bad as lots of other places.
Seattle, Portland, Memphis, Nashville, ATLANTA, heck I thought Phoenix had some brutal traffic too.
It's manageable without much effort, unlike a lot of places where it's unpredictable and ever present.
the vast majority of the time traffic in Socal is actually AMAZINGLY efficient. Outside of proper "rush hours" LA to San Diego is a 90 MPH smooth sail the whole way. In fact with the exception of the grapevine SD to SFO or even Redding is usually a non-event traffic wise
I think people who say they'd never live there because of traffic have never actually dealt with it, don't appreciate how valuable lane splitting and proper enforcement really is. And the bottom line is that no matter where you live in the US, Los Angeles' traffic is pretty much your future. At least they've been thinking about it for a good long while and truly it's mostly figured out.
"Again I ask" <- How many times do I have to answer before you hear it?
I'm not full of BS at all. In Orange county, there's a 18" divider between the left and the HOV lane. It's illegal for cars to merge, and because they are used to and expecting us to split they merge away and there's normally a 10' or 12' wide open space there that is used by bikes. You guys think splitting at 90 is insane, when in fact it's a fairly normal thing to do.
When it's busy but not heavy, NORMAL traffic trough LA flows at about 80-85
I've gone 90 in a car and been passed by a CHP cruiser who never even looked at me.
And the incident I related was actually in the valley where it's MUCH narrower and yeah, there are a few squids down over there
You say I'm full of BS, and I say that's you being closed minded, judge-mental, and you are obviously pretending to be an authority on something you know nothing about. You are telling everyone how shitty LA is and you've apparently never been there.
And LA is a small part of SoCal and a tiny part of "California"
Xymotic, I'm lost, which state do you think is best?
Well I'm glad you asked! Allow me to elaborate
I am not just saying this because I live here. Honestly.
He speaks the truth. "proper enforcement" is a thing. Thought about this today riding to work. Was going 90 (indicated) most of the way and being passed by about 20% of the cars. Unless you just killed somebody, you don't have to worry about getting tagged for speeding here.
Back in MN, where I'm from, cops are predatory and hide in bushes. You're getting a ticket 5+ miles over the limit. Makes no sense except from a revenue perspective for the state. Kinda sucks. They're so busy here they don't bother.
Also, I go to Seattle semi-frequently to see friends. The traffic there is BAD. And you can't lane split. Every time I see poor motorcyclist guy just sitting in stopped traffic with the plebe cars, the safest kind to lane split in, it doesn't make sense to me. And those guys have to put up with some serious rain, why sit in it?!
Regarding the story of the CHP passing you while lanesplitting going really fast. I would called b.s. on this too had not I experienced it firsthand. The LA CHP are nuts. No gear, really: open face helmet, short sleeve shirt, equestrian boots and pants-flying by you on the no shoulder 405 in insane traffic lanesplitting and you're over 80 mph already.
Like I said before, anywhere you are is probably fine as long as your bike isn't locked up for the winter TOO long -this doesn't have to be a CA circle jerk. But there are some unique benefits to living and riding here, along with some unique challenges.
Not all year round mind you...
And people from LA are just being modest, I'm in LA proper and this is 20 minutes away in Angeles National Forest
20 minutes is like 350 in miles, right? And god look at all that congestion!
Is A.C. (the off-road parts I mean) completely open now? When I left huge parts of it were closed because of the fire.
Yeah, go to Susanville or Yreka it's very different. They'll git ya for the piddliest little thing. Bakersfield south not so much.
Yeah, that was probably me Like I said my Husky's been all over ridden hard in dirt and 105+ heat. It's only ever overheated on I-5 in downtown Seattle. (twice) at like 2pm.
I wasn't even talking about the CHP moto Guys, they're nuckin futs! MOST bikes hang left, so the CHP guys go into the right lanes cuz they ain't waitin for no stupid bikers to get out of their way!!! I've seen those guys flying 70+ in stop and go traffic and Splitting and WEAVING, every time they hit the brakes it's just on the edge of a stoppie, I tell you one thing, I'f I had a 3/4 mile head start I wouldn't try to outrun one of them guys.
To be fair though, it is a kevlar short sleeved shirt they wear, and raybans are 'armor' right?
The pass I was talking about was just me white knuckling it, feelin smug abut how hardcore I was and then looking in my rearview had a sport bike on my ass. waved him by and along comes another. With me doing 85-90 the whole time.
Mostly closed still, locals say it will open but just way down the list of things to do.