Best way to go from Australia to Europe ?

Discussion in 'Trip Planning' started by -Z-, Aug 29, 2017.

  1. -Z-

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    hey there!

    i'm planning to ride back home next year, from Australia to France

    anybody has done that already?

    apparently impossible to cross China and not sure if Afghanistan is safe enough

    I'm not specially looking for the fastest way but the easiest one, I don't want to spend a lot of time and money for the visas etc..

    I was thinking to ship from OZ to Russia and drove back thru Mongolia and europe.. any advice ?

    My bike is currently registered Western Australia and I have french passport.. Will it be tricky ? Can I ride it unregistered ?

    thanks all in for your help !
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  3. Bell driver

    Bell driver Been here awhile

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    EU citizens are not allowed to drive vehicles registered in a third party country within the EU.
    At the first EU border you hit you'll have to import the vehicle into the EU, pay import duty, VAT and road tax.
    You will also need EU insurance. Talk to @Frgich
    You'll fork out about 33% of the bikes appraised value.

    Edith says: Unless...
    Check with the French customs website whether you fulfill the requirements for 'household goods'.
    If so, you need to find a shipper willing to sell you a 'T1' form.
    This guarantees duty/tax free transit to your home country to deal with the import there.

    This form is needed BEFORE you even get close to border customs.
    Once they have you without the form you're being nicked.

    I have successfully done this through Belgium with my Nigerian registered XR.

    Good luck.
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  4. Mark Manley

    Mark Manley Long timer

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    If you can find a shipper to get it to Vladivostok and fly out to join it you should be able to ride all of the way home from there. You can travel in Russia all of the way back to Europe but I think going through Mongolia and other Central Asian countries would be more scenic and have a greater variety of cultures to take in. You won't need a carnet de passage for any of this which you will if you travel through Southeast and Southern Asia although it is possible to travel this way without going through Afghanistan which is a no go area.
    You will need a number plate and some official paperwork to show that it is yours even if your reggo has expired, it will also help with registering it in France.
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  5. -Z-

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    cheers guys for your precious help!

    If i will go thru Russia i'll definitely make a loop around Mongolia, that looks so nice!

    First plan was to ship the bike from Darwin to Indonesia ( the cheapest and easiest way ) but with the carnet de passage, the customs and the visas it might be more complicated than from Russia..

    My bike is currently registered, insured and have a number plate but I don't have much paper to proof that is mine, just the registration paper under my name & adress ( but no official stamp or signature on it.. )


    @ Bell Driver ; Once i get into the first border in Europe, what about if I tell them that i'll keep going my trip to Africa or the US ? It doesn't make sense to pay a lot of Import taxes as I just paid $1200 for the bike.. And to be honest i just want to bring it back home for the "trip" even if it as to stay track only or unroad legal that's fine.
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  6. Mark Manley

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    Something to check first is whether or not you can get a Russian visa outside of France, citizens of countries that have poor diplomatic relations with Russia, that includes the UK and possibly the rest of Europe can only get them in their home countries.
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  7. -Z-

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    Apparently I should be ok to collect a visa from the Ambassy in Canberra.

    got some news for the trip;

    apparently there isn't many ships running from OZ to Russia, but from OZ to south Korea there is way more and cheaper!

    so i would be able to do Sydney - Busan (korea) and from there take a ferry (21h trip) to Vladivostok.

    The quote to Korea was AUD1450 + 200-300$ for korea to vladivostok.

    what do you think ?

    i might be able to get a discount if i deliver the bike already in the crate.


    I've also ring the Western Australian department of transport to know if i can get a certificate of ownership or the equivalent but the guy said no need the registration payment work as a proof :-)
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  8. ninja97

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    Some info for you that might help.

    Check out a ride report by c4traz called Melbourne to Munich on a DR 650, I have no idea how to do a link but type c4traz into the search window and you can find it that way.

    Basic story was he was a German living in OZ and rode his bike back home to Munich via Sth Korea, Japan, Russia, Mongolia and so forth.

    Good ride report so might give you some good info.

    Good luck.
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