BETA 2-Stroke Thread. 250RR, 300RR, X-Trainer

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by ToriMish, Feb 4, 2017.

  1. ToriMish

    ToriMish Long timer

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    Starting this thread - as there doesn't appear to be any live threads dedicated to the 2-stroke BETA bikes in the Thumper sub forum.

    I'm a new owner of a 2017 300RR and am loving it! Perhaps we can use this place to discuss mods, tips & tricks - and of course general fun times had by BETA owners on their lovely 2-strokes.
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  2. LTKernel

    LTKernel jack of all trades...

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    I'm in! :lurk

    Okay, I suppose I owe more than that.

    First, brilliant Mate! I noodled around here and couldn't find a Beta 2T thread either. There's the 4T thread, and good on them for keeping that going. Nice to see Beta 4 stroke DS bikes making strides.

    Second, I paid for my 300RR, but have been too lazy to go get it. Unlike you folks south of the equator hanging on upside down, it's winter for the rest of us right-side-up folks. We're mostly complaining or sliding on frozen water while your knowledge of new model year bikes gets a jump on us. I am letting the dealer put a street legal kit on it and then I will go collect it before adding more. Here's my list of goodies going on it straight away.

    * Oversized Kick Stand Pad AB-10204
    * License Plate Support AB-12059
    * Force Meter Guard, black AB-21166
    * Sharkfin Rear Brake Disk Protection AB-10389
    * Carbon Fiber Pipe Guard, 2T AB-10255
    * Clutch Slave Cylinder Guard AB-20010
    * Clutch Cover Guard 2T, black AB-21170
    * IMS 3.1 gallon tank, natural AB-12036
    * Enduro Engineering Radiator Braces
    * Sachs Fork Bleeder Valves
    * BRP Risers and Bar Clamp
    * Scotts Steering Damper

    Maybe an Enduro Engineering Aluminum Skidplate because I can't trust the OEM one?

    Maybe the auxiliary cooling fan?

    Lastly, I have ridden the 2016 300RR and was pretty impressed. First two stroke since I was a kid and while I have two KTMs, I am also impressed with the spec on Betas at their price point. Some say KTM/Husky "borrowed" the Beta engine for their 2017 XC's and TE's. I also plan to use this bike in slower more technical terrain, so I like the slightly more compact ergos and lower seat height than KTM/Husky.
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  3. retroone

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    Soooooo in !!! :clapI ride my 2015 up graded suspension gnarly piped Xtrainer every weekend sense new. :thumbup
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  4. Tharaphita

    Tharaphita Been here awhile

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    We have winter here too and everything is frozen but we still ride regurarly. Just need to get the spikes =) I have 2015 300RR with Racetech suspension and some other usual addons. I decided to go for 2 T Beta after renting KTM-s, Shercos and Huskys. Very satsified so far. My riding buddy has 350 4T and we switch occasionally and loving my 2T more every time when i try 4T. It just feels so nimble and powerful, gets my hurt pumping.

    But still as i am very newb i vent 2,5 turns in with powervalve and its much much smoother now. Map setting also at mild. Still plenty of power to ride rings around 350 4T heuueheu.
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  5. Fallacy

    Fallacy Been here awhile

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    Picked up my new X Trainer at the end of December, the weather has only allowed me 2-3 hours of riding so far.
    I've been passing the time with various add ones, Flex bars, hand guards, linkage guard, clutch slave guard, Tubliss front and rear, still waiting for my Clake Pro lever.
    It's going to be a great summer.
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  6. ToriMish

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    Great to see all you guys jumping in! I think the popularity of the Beta 2-strokes is underrated and a lot of folks are having fun on them.

    I like the list of your mods there LTKernel. Give the Force bashplate a go, it's beefy and protects the pipe. I've also got a Scotts damper on my Husky 610 and I reckon I'll get the bracket to fit it to my 300RR. The fork bleeder valves look like a sweet addition, I reckon I might add those too at some stage. I'm waiting on my linkage guard thingy, and my RHK footpegs to show up. Since you're still waiting to pick up your 2017 300RR, here is a first ride review I did the day after I picked up the bike :

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  7. ToriMish

    ToriMish Long timer

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    Show us some sexy pics of your X-Trainer! Apparently the Clake is pretty awesome, I better start saving my pennies, though the stock clutch on the 300RR seems easy to operate with one finger so far.
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  8. LTKernel

    LTKernel jack of all trades...

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    Nice vid, and no we do not have your weather right now where I am. I have watched many of the cross training enduro vids made by your fellow countryman on his Beta 300RR.

    So part of my interest in the Beta extends to my teenage son who also has ridden the 2016 version. He's still shorter than I am and has virtually no experience on a dirtbike. He is a natural athlete with great fitness and balance on skis and a mountain bike, so by looking at the pictures below you might never know he's a noob.

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    Yep, that linkage guard thingy was on my radar also. What is everyone already riding experiencing with the carb settings on the RRs? Apparently they can run rich resulting in more fuel consumption than necessary and splooge coming from the pipe? Is that true of the 2017s, and if so, what's the common fix? Settings or parts?
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  9. ToriMish

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    Great photos! My 300RR was re-jetted and needle changed by the dealer before I picked it up. It's running sweet at the moment.

    After my first ride I had a bit of spooge coming from the rubber join between the pipe and the exhaust. Dealer told me to zip tie it down, and apparently it's a common issue?

    What tyres are you running on that thing? After my 2 hour ride I noticed a LOT of wear on my rear Michelin Comp 6 . . . I don't think it will last long in the rocks.
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  10. LTKernel

    LTKernel jack of all trades...

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    Any ideas what parts they used? The rear tire is a MotoZ Mountain Hybrid. DOT approved for street legal, durable, puncture resistant, stable, and grips rocks very well. Extremely popular tire in the west/southwest of the US where rocks can eat a tire alive. Why am I telling you this? You Aussies make em!

    http://motoz.com.au/product/mountain-hybrid/
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    PlowHand Ancient, ugly and happy :-)

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    Here is my XT when it was new...

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    And what it looked like on my first real ride... (At bottom of screen)

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  12. sparkingdogg

    sparkingdogg Prisoner In Disguise

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    Hey I'm in!! :wave

    There's a Beta 2 stroke thread buried in "Old's Cool" and I posted there last fall, to zero replies. I bought my '14 300RR from a fellow inmate last fall. Only have a couple short rides on it. Dead of winter here in the midwest.

    Got rid of my 300EXC to help finance the Beta. Has like 50 hours on it and looks brand new. So far, loving it!!

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    And, it's paid for! :D

    Edit... @ArkieRider I had to look at my old PM's, couldn't remember your handle. Thanks again... hope to actually ride this baby soon!!
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    You need to rejet. It's easy, but since it's based upon air density, you can't simply run the same jetting as someone from Oz. Check the jetting chart in your handbook, it should get you in the ballpark (probably a little bit rich) and you can tweak it from there. Be sure to keep notes
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    Bitingdog That's not my dog

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    I want to ride there! Gosh darn that's some nice forest
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  15. Fallacy

    Fallacy Been here awhile

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    A good friend of mine has 400+ acres of river valley that looks just like that, the day he told me I can ride there anytime I want he became my best friend.
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    sparkingdogg Prisoner In Disguise

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    Very nice video, you have an amazing "road" there! Wish I had that near my house!

    One thing should be strongly reiterated about the 300cc 2T engine, and your video makes it clear. I rode Japanese 2T's for many years. You get the choice of 250 or 500, for the most part. Yes there are a few exceptions. Anyways, I started riding Euro bikes a couple years ago. First, the KTM 300 2T, now the Beta 300 2T. Simply put, the Euro 300 2T is the most brilliant engine ever made!

    Tractor like 4T hill climbing chug, check. Motocross like ground ripping WFO 2T on-the-pipe power, check. Adjustable power band to suit riding type and style, check. Perfectly balanced power to weight ratio, check. Useful mid range with excellent throttle response, check.

    For anyone reading this thread, who has not ridden a 300cc 2T bike, your life will be forever changed. I can't imagine any other engine, nor any reason why I would want one. The 300 just has it all. My Katoom was easy enough to kick... but the magic button on the Beta is like the icing on the cake. Too sweet to pass up! (Yes I know the newer Katooms are e-start too, mine was older.)

    And for anyone reading this thread, whose last 2T bike was a non power valved pre-80's Japanese bike, prepare to be impressed. The 2T bikes we had as kids (yeah I am old) were nothing at all like these modern marvels. These things have respectable torque. I have had plenty of modern Japanese bikes as well, but the Beta 2 strokes are just in a totally different class. And the prices are even excellent. Worth every penny I paid.
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  17. Bucho

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    I agree about the 300 2T engine, cant emphasize that enough. Can't imagine not having one in some form.
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    Bucho DAMNrider

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    I was very lucky to have an amazing deal on a 2015 Xtrainer (I've been riding it about a year now)

    First owner put most of the basic protection stuff on hand guard, linkage guard, rear brake guard, and a strange plastic skid plate (from Boano I think). He also put an Equilibrium tire on the rear which I think is great.

    This past summer before taking it on a week long trip to Colorado, I added a larger 2.9 gallon tank and the factory kickstart kit.
    I still need to set it up w/ heavier springs for my weight. I did put 15wt fork oil which helped.
    I also found a DBsnorkel to help keep things a little quieter when I'm just dualsporting around and exploring.

    I love the bike and have a hard time saying too much bad about Beta. My buddy also about the same time bought a brand new 2016 300rr. We think the plastic breaks a little too easy (we need to stop looping the bikes). Not that I minded mixing gas/oil in my old KTM but the oil injection is pretty cool. After hearing my experiences this was a selling point for my friend.


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    Bucho DAMNrider

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    Forgive my noobness. I was practicing on this bigger log for the first time and felt I needed the kicker. It was kind of a security blanket...


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    A Beta 300rr and Freeride in the background
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