BETA 2-Stroke Thread. 250RR, 300RR, X-Trainer

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by ToriMish, Feb 4, 2017.

  1. Dao1

    Dao1 Been here awhile

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    if PO used it as an offroad only or race bike, then it makes sense to rip out the oil injector and just manually premix.

    Had PO made the bike street legal, then chances are the oil injector would remain existing. that's the only reason really to
    have an oil injector.
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  2. Marylander

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    Not laziness?
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  3. Jbone11 11

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    Thanks guys. As always, good intel. YEah.... this honda dealer is known as a bit of a flea market. They usually ask high and sell low. Might be worth considering as the front headlight assembly isnt terribly expensive. Not knowing the hours is a bit worrying however.
  4. CSpringsRider

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    Sorry for the delay in responding. We went camping and were without a computer for the week. Had four great days riding single track (dirt bike and mountain bike) at Hartman Rocks recreation area near Gunnison, Colorado.
    We used the Beta lowering kit and had the dealer install it before my wife took delivery of the bike.
    On the subject of "just learning to ride without being able to put your feet down."
    Agree with the posters who commented that sometimes being able to get a foot or toe down is essential. Riding here in the Rockies, there are places where being able to get a foot down means the difference between getting through the ride or falling a couple of hundred/ thousand feet down a mountain. I try very hard to stay on the pegs since the bike handles better but sometimes the rocks in the steeps have a different plan for me. At those times, dabbing one foot means the difference between going down or riding inelegantly until I can get back up on the pegs.
  5. Bucho

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    I feel like mine smokes much less using the oil injection (not really a big deal I know). Its also nice not to have to have two separate gas cans, one premix and one regular for my 2T and 4T bikes.
    I do wish it had a better fail safe, but I like the oil injection and I'm willing to roll the dice a little.
  6. LTKernel

    LTKernel jack of all trades...

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  7. ToriMish

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    I had to replace my oil pump. It wasn't failing, but I discovered I was using more oil than I should be - and upon scrutiny of the pump motor - I noticed a very slight leak around the outer metal body of the pump. Unsure of how this happened; dealer had never seen it before. He gave me another pump under warranty and I fitted it and the problem was fixed.
  8. Dalotel

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    Better late than never :-) do you have photo to share of the bike lowered?
  9. CSpringsRider

    CSpringsRider Been here awhile

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    Here you are:
    The X-Trainer is closer to the trailer.

    Attached Files:

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  10. Dalotel

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    Looks great! And it seems that still has plenty of ground clearance. Did you checked the actual seat height now as it is? Does it have a low seat too?
  11. CSpringsRider

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    Yes, it does have the Seat Concepts low seat. I did not check the actual seat height. I'll go out to the garage later today, measure it and update this post.

    Update - the seat height is just a hair over 34" with the low seat and 2" lowering kit. Keep in mind that with proper sag adjustment and spring rates for your weight that the seat height will drop about another 3" when you are sitting on it.
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  12. Traveller128

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    Took my bike out for the first time in two months, and sure enough, the oil warning light is on again. I just rode it around the yard after the dealer repaired it last time, and it was fine then, but due to back issues I've been off of it since then. SO, looks like the oil injection problem is NOT fixed, and now I'm out of the warranty period. I'm definitely not sold on the oil injection, and would strongly suggest that it's not ready for prime time at this point. One of the reasons I bought this bike was the oil injection system. Not real happy this evening. First time I've felt able to get on the bike in some time, and it's broke just sitting there. Fun.
  13. swamp

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    Mine is a 2015. Never an issue with the oil injection and its ridden hard every day.

    Under the seat there is a brown connector. Zip tie it tight.
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  14. ChasM

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    I finally decided to remove the oil injection on my '16 300RR. The problem with mine is that the OI was inconsistent and sporadic. It occasionally would smoke way too much and 'spooged' in all types of riding with oil dripping the whole length of the muffler and on to the ground. I even had Sierra BMW & Beta check the TPS and they verified the it was within factory specs. After much research, I decided to premix with Amzoil Saber at 80:1 and am really impressed with the results, especially the absence of spooge.
  15. Bucho

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    Sorry to hear that.
    I'm just wondering if its the exact same system as is on the Xtrainer. Seems it generally works really well.
  16. Traveller128

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    Yep, same system. I know WWguy removed his and he and I discussed the reasons. His reasoning is sound, as the system doesn't self monitor enough to identify a failure. It's electronic, so it can fail easier than a mechanical pump. There is no warning if the oil flow stops. If the pump quits working, it might set a light, but if it thinks it's doing something and it isn't there is no warning connected to actual oil flow. It's demand based, so it keeps the oil mix proper for the load on the motor. That's the great thing about it. It's susceptible to single point failure causing oil starvation, that's the bad thing about it. Premix isn't as accurate as electronic metering, but it's dead reliable.
  17. Kyler

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    the comments regarding the introduction of FI to 4-strokes were quite similar. The proof will take a few years yet. Bucho's bike is three years old or so and he doesn't baby it. No offence Bucho, but he isn't noted for performing routine maintenance either. Again, time will tell.
  18. gots_a_sol

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    Shots fired :lol3
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  19. Bucho

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    No offense taken. Ive earned that with my DR and my old KTM.

    Though I've have been putting a lot more effort in for the Italian Princess.
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  20. Kyler

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    the the oil injection holds up on your bike then it is solid in my book. :-) BTW I need to borrow it again before the fall ends and go back to St John's Rock.