Beware: F800gs Rims Are Junk!

Discussion in 'Parallel Universe' started by Dirsuper, Mar 16, 2010.

  1. grndzr0

    grndzr0 its Ground Zero

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    I agree, I am always thinking that "Im sure that hit bent my wheel..." But it never has. I have been on some rocky, rocky crap, slammed into some pretty harsh ledges that pretty much stop the bike dead in its tracks, hit large rocks at speed, and I have never bent a rim. However, my wife bent one on her 650 twin on a small 3 in ledge one day, so yea...

    But anyway, I have seen plenty of bent F8 rims in person, but I havnt bent mine, and I have sure tried hard too!!

    Ryan
  2. Bayner

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    Bottom your suspension, you're much more likely to bend a rim. And stockers are definitely weaker than Woody's setups. I haven't bent his yet and I've been pretty harsh with them.
  3. Blueshark

    Blueshark Coastal Castaway

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  4. grndzr0

    grndzr0 its Ground Zero

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    I have RPM 1 tire and wheel insurance. We bought it with the bikes, It was 500 ish a bike and is good for 5 years. I have used it on a nail in a K60 so far. They "dont ever repair moto tires" and if the authorized shop you deal with has some nice service guys, they might loose the old tire. Also, You have to have 3/32nds of an in of tread left, lol. They didn't believe the shop the first 3 times they measured the tread depth at 1/2 in!!

    My problem was I have a K60 scouts, and they are not sold many places, especially in MT, im pretty sure nobody in the state sells them. The repair shop didn't want to order one in, so essentially I ordered the tire, payed for the mounting, and then got reimbursed for the whole thing from RPM 1.

    I am about to find out what they do for wheels, as my wife just bent her f650twin wheel (a few months ago, lol). So we will see if they do a repair or replace on that. If they replace, I may have a slightly used/repaired wheel for sale!!

    Ryan
  5. Ceri JC

    Ceri JC UK GSer

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    With my mechanically unsympathetic riding style, OE suspension and 110KG of me (in riding kit) crashing down on it, my suspension has bottomed out more than once,

    :evil
  6. grndzr0

    grndzr0 its Ground Zero

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    +1

    Still no bent rims
  7. Bayner

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    Well, I do have shit luck with everything else in life....
  8. casperghst42

    casperghst42 Been here awhile

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    I took my fully loaded F8 (panniers and camping stuff) over a mountain pass last week in Bulgaria (I can provide the track if asked - parts of it is "no go" area - but awesome ride), where most of it was rocks (hand size and up), and not a single dent (in the rims).

    I was nervous afterwards, but I do not see any reason to say differently as you do. For me it does not look like the rims are made out of butter.


    Casper
  9. woody's wheel works

    woody's wheel works Built to Last

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    FYI,,the bad Behr rims on KTM 640/950/990 2.15x21 were circa '06-10 late 2011,,that's when i noticed the rim was made out of a stiffer alloy,,why because they were waaay harder to straighten and had higher pitched sound when tapped with a wrench

    NOW the F800GS sported the same bad rims from the very beginning waht circa '08???
    just wondering what year bikes all of you that have not experienced bent rims on,,,,???could it be that the beefier rims are also finding their way to F800gS front wheels???:ear:ear:ear:ear

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  10. ebrabaek

    ebrabaek Long timer

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    I tried to bend my front rim (2009 8GS)....many times.... but have been unsuccessful. The rear..... well.... that one is made by your team ( 18 tubeless with excel), and I see no bend rear in that ones forecast.:D
  11. grndzr0

    grndzr0 its Ground Zero

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    I have a 2010, Run 25 lbs off road, I have had both the TKC and K60 fronts, bottom out the front fairly frequently, Probably 40 times just yesterday and today (Mixture of Rocks and ledges on slow stuff, and fast Potholes on un-ish-maintained dirt road)

    By the way thanks for the speedy service on my wheel bearings last week!!! Ran great!!

    Ryan
  12. donnh

    donnh Been here awhile

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    Here's another:
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    But I must say this is after 25,000 miles of abuse before I finally hit a rock just right to bend the rim.

    Here is approximately where it happened
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    As you can see it was a pretty rocky area of Idaho, I was going too fast and missed a big rock in the shadows and WHAM :eek1 I knew right away I must have caused some damage. I had 26psi on my Heidenau front tire and had my steering stabilizer on high. I'm not really faulting the rim, I'm surprised I didn't end up with a flat.

    I already e-mailed Woody's and will look into an Excel rim.





  13. Moptop

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    Might I suggest that the bent rims are more a consequence of poor suspension for offroad use on the BMW f800 than bad rims.( or a combination of both) I just did the APC rally in Australia. 14 days 7400 km. covering mountains to dessert. I have upgraded my suspension and by the time we finished had a small dent in the front rim. I started talking to another f800 rider just after the mountain section with stock suspension( we were running the same tyres and same psi) and his front rim looked like it was attacked with a sledge hammer. I was in from off him so is was not that he was riding harder than me. You be the judge.
  14. montanaman

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    I did get the wheel and tire insurance ( I think its "Safe-co" or some such) when I bought my 800GS 2 years ago. I know that it is a typical up-sell item when you sit with the finance guy but I specifically asked if this coverage was for off-road riding. He said it was so I got it. ( like 250 bucks) . So I bent a front rim and even tho the tire held air ( what we all have tubes for ) I got the wheel replaced under warranty. Now ... that was not without a fight with the insurance people as they claimed since it held air the tire was fine. I fired off a few choice lines about tubed tires and it was replaced at no cost. The BMW shop in AZ was happy because they got to replace a 900 hundred dollar wheel assembly and got credit for the repair.
    Moral of the story.... when you ride anything in adverse conditions things are going to break and bend. I am sure the wheels are not as good as Excel and others. The do seem soft and I could hear it happen as I hit a buried rock. I am glad I bought the wheel tire insurance and now buy it on my other bikes. I look forward to the process with the finance guy so I can grind them down. I've had a tire replaced and mounted and a rim replaced and mounted in 2 years. I am way ahead..:rofl
  15. guzzimike

    guzzimike Long timer

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    That's my call on it as well, the stock suspension bottoms out easily, then something has to give, and it's the rim.
    The rims are soft, but it's not the whole reason for bent rims.
    I now have Ohlins front and rear, and excel rims.
  16. ride2little

    ride2little Riding Like the Wind

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    Ordered a new front wheel/spokes from Woody's. My CO trip buggered up both rims. Managed to have the rear messaged out and trued. But the front had a square spot not on the rim sides, but right in the middle of the hoop. I just bit the bullet and ordered a D.I.D. Hoop laced up w/ HD spokes Superlaced. Total time off the bike is a bout a week. Pretty good. I removed the spokes and stock hoop myself and just sent in the hub. The good folks at Woody's called me when it arrived to take payment. The next day, I had a UPS shipping confirmation email. NICE! Should smooth out my ride a whole lot. I think I have had a not so true front wheel for a long time.
    Can't wait because it's PERFECT riding weather right about now.
  17. It'sNotTheBike

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    Obviously you did not do your research before you bought a bike. The BMW
    is not a machine which is tough enough in stock form to do actual off road riding
    without failures.

    I have known for a long time that the newer BMWs are over-priced
    and deeply flawed machines. Take a look at the fork failure thread on the 650. Take
    a look at the final drive failure threads for the big GS bikes.

    BMW's best days are behind them. Sell the bike and move on to a better machine, or
    take personal responsibility for the choice you made and accept that the bike needs
    upgrades before it will be a reliable off road machine.

    By the way, good luck with attempting to bring legal action against BMW, because BMW has
    deeper pockets than you do and they have repeatedly demonstrated their desire
    to avoid even admitting there have been problems. That behavior alone should be enough
    to cause a discerning buyer to look elsewhere.

    There are other bikes which will provide very good service with much less
    hassle.



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  18. grndzr0

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    I would like to know what magical bike you are riding?

    And if your having problems with BMW, may be you should check out your screen name, as with most internet problems, Rider seems to be a large contributing factor....

    Ryan
  19. It'sNotTheBike

    It'sNotTheBike Banned

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    I didn't say I owned a BMW. You need to work on your reading
    comprehension. BMW has had a lot of problems in recent years,
    and your apparent unwillingness to believe this won't make those
    problems disappear.

    By the way, it's "you're", not your. You need to work on your English too.



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  20. grndzr0

    grndzr0 its Ground Zero

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    I wasnt aware of the spelling test.

    I Just assumed that you actually had some experience dealing with BMWs to actually back up the claims you were making.

    I apologize, you must be just like every other forum flamer, jumping into forums for bikes you don't own, talking smack for some random reason I dont understand.

    Ryan