Beyond clouds - through Russia to Georgia

Discussion in 'Ride Reports - Epic Rides' started by randel, Sep 27, 2011.

  1. roninwva

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    :thumb great pics!
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  2. bushman_uk

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    Great report, great pics and a fantastic country thankyou :clap:clap:clap:clap
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    enjoying the report!
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    Good reading to date...

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    wow, i really enjoy your pictures and story. keep up the good work! :clap
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    Great stuff:clap, good reading this RR, that first mountain pass sorta reminds me of a gravel version of the stelvio pass:evil
    Nice to see a less explored part of europe:freaky
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  7. His Pistolship

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    Awesome pics and RR. Making me jealous.
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  8. BenMen

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    Thanks for the nice RR. Can't wait to see more...
    We'll be there in 3 weeks. Interesting to see how Georgia looks like.
    If you have useful info, adresses, unmissable places... please share :D
    Thanks.
    Ben
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  9. randel

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    Sorry about my slow progress, I just can't find time to write my report faster. I will do an overview about places we found worth visiting in the end of this report.
    3 weeks in Georgia sounds great, we only had 9 days and missed many places. I wish you have a great trip!
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  10. BenMen

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    Hi Randel. No, we won't stay there 3 weeks (we wish we could!). We'll be there in 3 weeks! And we may stay 5 days in Georgia, depending if we can cross the russian border or not. I leave Belgium in 1 week, so, if you have time, I'm really interested in getting some interesting info/adresses/places/... Thanks in advance.
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  11. randel

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    Sorry BenMen, I misread your post!
    Well, I'm afraid that all higher passes are still under snow then. At least locals sayd that passes will be closed until June.
    You probably can reach Mestia and Ushguli only coming from west (road from Poti).
    Some short overview about places we visit and not yet covered in my report
    Batumi - resort at Black Sea. Very different from other Georgia, more "europe-like" and not so exotic, also more expensive. If you like to travel cheap, don't be afraid to take some unofficial apartment there. We got 3-room apartment for 40 Euro for 2 night (family who lived there, moved to summer cottage for that time!).
    Southern part of Georgia - very different from northern part, mountains are more like in Spain, desert-like, less or no trees.
    Vardzia - ancient cave city, great and amazing place.
    Gori and Stalin museum (Stalin, soviet dictator, was born in this city). Take a guide (english, german etc available).
    We didn't have time to visit Tbilisi, a capital of Georgia, but don't feel bad about it.
    Mtskheta - ancient capital of Georgia - found some comments before our trip that it's overrated, so we didn't visit that too
    Definately worth a visit is Kakheti - eastern part of Georgia and a wine county. Unfortunately we didn't have time for that.

    What's the most interesting part of Georgia is people. Take time to talk with them and they will tell you where to go (mostly they will suggest to stay with them :freaky). If you don't speak russian, you may have problems with communicating them though. But we met only friendly people willing to help you!
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  12. BenMen

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    Thanks Randel for these useful infos. We were actually planning to reach Mestia and Ushguli from Poti. Do you remember how long it takes between Mestia and Ushguli? Some say you need 4 hours in a 4X4. It's only 45 km I think, so it seems a bit long to me.
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  13. randel

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    I don't remember exactly, but definately not 4 hours, maybe something between 1-2 hours. Of course it depends from bikes too, but for our bikes it was easy riding, mostly gravel or very old asphalt with a lot of potholes.
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  14. Lunatic

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    Subscribed !!!! I'll be in Tallin 2nd week in June .....any suggestions as where to stay ?

    Cheers , Dan :freaky
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  15. randel

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    Hi Dan
    Check this site: http://www.visitestonia.com/en/ , everything you may need from B&B to 5 stars hotels. If you have any specific question, send me a PM.
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  16. duroturk

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    No worries, it is fast gravel. Below vid may give you an idea, bike is very heavy loaded + pillion. After that we have kept going to Lentkhi and then to Kutaisi. Nice ride.

    There are some more vids of Georgia in my channel there in Vimeo.

    https://vimeo.com/34455513
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  17. macarron

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    Duroturk, do you remember if there were any gas stations in the area around Mestia? Thanks.

    Nice videos, by the way.
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  18. duroturk

    duroturk Been here awhile

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    Thanks mac.

    Yes, there is at least one in Mestia which I have tanked. By the way, last summer there was a messy road construction to Mestia, they may finish it this year. Paved roads might decrease the adv feeling for some people. :lol3
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  19. macarron

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    Very useful information, thank you. Maybe road construction will stop at Usghuli , it's very unlikely that tarmac reaches the Zagar pass, don't you think so? I would like to visit the zone before that happens.
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  20. randel

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    I doubt they will continue roadwork beyond Mestia - too expensive and not enough traffic to justify this. They have too many roads to repair in Georgia anyway :wink:
    There were massive roadworks going on road from Poti to Mestia (a lot of it was already done in August/September) and also in Georgian military highway - going from Tbilisi to north to Russian border.