Bicycle thread

Discussion in 'Sports' started by Zodiac, Jul 10, 2006.

  1. slackmeyer

    slackmeyer Don't mean sheeit. .

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    I would probably use red loctite or retaining compound on the tapers. But yeah, the only special trick for installing square taper crankarms that I know is to get them nice and snug, and keep them that way- once they start wallowing around, they're essentially done.
  2. Signal

    Signal Cynical Idealist

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    The college natl's are here in my backyard (Ogden) this weekend-
    Anyone gonna be out here?
  3. Scurley

    Scurley Been here awhile

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    Thanks, gents.

    Just to be clear, what am I doing damage to? Is it the cranks, the bottom bracket, or both?

    If the BB is involved, I actually have a brand-new spare that's been sitting in a drawer for two years, so that's luck. Either way, I'm dumping my cranks. The current ones are some leftover Shimano Nexus ellipticals that I don't really enjoy, anyway.

    I wonder if it would be unethical to resell the cranks on fleabay.
  4. Wadester

    Wadester Rides a dirty bike

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    There is damage to both, but I think the aluminum arm gets the worst.

    It's only ethical to sell the cranks if you're upfront about why: "Used. Got loose and may be damaged." Anything less would be unethical in my estimation. I'd just toss'em in the recycle and be done.
  5. slackmeyer

    slackmeyer Don't mean sheeit. .

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    I'll just throw this out there: one thing to be aware of if you're having problems getting square taper crank arms to fit is that shimano and Campy have different square tapers, and you shouldn't mix the cranks and BBs.
  6. mud

    mud I just wander.....

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    Yes, Campy is ISO and Shimano is JIS.....

    http://sheldonbrown.com/bbtaper.html
  7. fullmonte

    fullmonte Reformed Kneedragger

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  8. pierce

    pierce Aven'Tourer

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    speaking of racing, anyone making plans for any sections of the Amgen Tour of California? I've volunteered again to be a course marshall on the Santa Cruz County leg, but apparently this year, single day volunteers are going to be 2nd class and just used as backup in the finish area, that the main stretch of the course will be manned by Amgen peoples :-/ last time I covered a stretch of Bonny Doon, which was awesome.
  9. YakSpout

    YakSpout Obstacle Allusion

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    I signed up for this:

    http://www.amgentourofcalifornia.com/nissan

    Thinking of blasting down the LA River bike path to the event, then blasting back home to watch a recorded stage with a beer in my hand. :D
  10. FinlandThumper

    FinlandThumper Has Cake/Eats it Too Super Moderator

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    Well, having bought the new bike, I am about 500km in for the last month and things are sorting out. My technique for sensing shifts is improving and I'm finding the hills to be more fun every day. Shit, I even dropped a pants size. :D

    I am getting tired of having to go to bike shops for relatively simple repairs to the various bikes in our house. It seems like this can't be so hard if I can wrench a motorcycle, but at the same time it's clear that bicycles have a few special tools and considerations as well. So with do-it-yourself maintenance in mind, can you fellas answer a few questions?

    - I was considering buying the Park Tool "Big Book" of bike maintenance. Is this good resource? Sure seems complete. Any other good sources?

    - I'm seeing lots of options for tool kits, single tools, etc. I'm hesitant to buy a kit right away since I have so many tools at home already for motorcycling, but clearly some tools are bicycle specific. Can somebody give a short rundown (or link to one) of the most essential tools I'll be needing? Clearly my sets of allen and torx from my motorcycle kits will work, but how abou tthe rest of it?

    - Another tool question. I'm seeing things like "pedal wrenches" and things. They never usually show the actual dimensions of these wrenches. Are sizes for things like this standard on bicycles? Seems a bit confusing not knowing what I might need, but they aren't cheap either.

    And of course, I'm perusing this thread for general information. It's a really great resource. Thanks for your help.
  11. Gummee!

    Gummee! That's MR. Toothless

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    Park's website is good too. Videos.

  12. markjenn

    markjenn Long timer

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    The Park "blue book" is my go-to bicycle maintenance book. It seems to tread the fine line between gruesome detail (e.g., Barnetts) and being overly simplistic. It's approach to problems are very practical and it matches up nicely with Parks online information. Park tools are sometimes a little flimsy but they get the job done.

    If you already have basic hand tools, my advice would be to NOT buy a standard bicycle toolkit as it will likely just duplicate a lot of what you have and will probably include tools that don't match up to your bike. Instead, I'd just set to wrenching and when you run into a problem that requires a special tool, go get it. (I'm fortunate in that I have a good bicycle shop nearby that has a good selection of tools in stock and they're not terribly expensive. They also are pretty good about doing repairs on the spot for stuff I don't have the tools for - for example, I don't have the tools for headset installation/removal, but if I take the frame/fork in ready to use the tool, they'll bash it in/out in seconds while I wait and usually don't bother charging me. Nuturing a good relationship with the wrenches at your local shop is a good thing!! There are a lot of things with bicycles that are ridiculously simple with the right tools and an absolute nightmare without.)

    Here are the common things you'll likely need fairly soon:

    1. Spoke wrench(s). I like the colored Park ones and have all three. You want to be absolutely sure you have one that fits TIGHT on the spoke nipple flats - if it doesn't require a little work to get the wrench around the nipple, you likely are using the wrong wrench.

    2. Cone wrenches. Thin wrenches for adjusting wheel bearings. The sizes vary between hubs a bit so you need several. (Adjusting wheel bearings is a bit tricky - be sure you understand what is going on here - simply "backing off" a 1/4 turn like a car wheel bearing doesn't cut it.)

    3. Chain-breaker tool. You can sometimes get by with the cheapie universal ones in bicycle multi-tools, but I like having a good shop tool for this.

    4. Freewheel/cassette removal tool. This is something that you need specific for what you have on the rear of your bike. And if you have a modern cassette system, you'll also need a chain whip to hold the cluster while you remove the lockring.

    5. Inch-lb torque wrench. Lots of light-duty torquing required on bikes.

    6. Bottom bracket/crank removal tool(s). Another case where each system has its own special tool(s) for removal.

    7. Cable cutter. It's almost impossible to make good clean cuts of cables and housings without a special tool.

    8. Chainring nut wrench. Chainrings bolts use a strange nut on the backside that most of the time doesn't turn when you remove the bolt, but sometimes does and unless you have this cheap wrench, to hold this nut, getting the bolts out is very difficult.

    That's all I can think of, but as I said, I think you should just dive in and get them as you go.

    bikeforums.net has a pretty good section on bicycle mechanics, but like all forums there are some "my way or the highway" blowhards over there so you have to take everything with a little common sense.

    Just ran across this the other day and it is a good resource for understanding parts, compatability, etc.

    http://www.velobase.com/Default.aspx

    I find bicycle mechanics a lot more approachable that motorcycle mechanics. More art than science. I recently did my first wheel-build and it was great fun.

    - Mark
  13. Lewy

    Lewy Minus the LC8

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    I made a Go Pro timelapse of my ride to and from work on Friday

    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/-haPIhgksdg" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
  14. fullmonte

    fullmonte Reformed Kneedragger

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    The 3 State century was tough yesterday. I got off to a terrible start on account of having to take a massive dump as the peloton was leaving the stadium. Then I had to pin on my race number, so I was at least 10 minutes behind the pack. The first hour was spent riding alone while passing scores of other riders. The weather ran the gamut with fog, then some rain with a hail chaser, and brutal afternoon sun made it an interesting ride. The goal was to conquer Burkhalter Gap (which is the last mountain climb of 2.4 miles with a grade that exceeds 20% at the top) without walking the bike. Standing on the pedals and seeing 3mph on the speedometer is a :huh experience. Mission accomplished. Total of 102 miles on the odo in 6:23 at an avg speed of 15.9. My little brother rode it in 4:54, but he had to jump off and walk his bike up the steepest part of Burkhalter.:D
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    Yours truly.
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    A refreshing shower on the other side of the lake from where the previous pic was taken.
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    My brother (in the lead pack) is wearing the Gerolsteiner jersey in the right row. He hung with this group until the bottom of Burkhalter Gap at the 83 mile mark.
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    Busted! You're not doing it right.
    edit: They got the pics up in a hurry this time.
  15. Schnickelfritz

    Schnickelfritz pick, grin, repeat

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    You'll both be crushing it when nationals comes to yer town, then!

    Aaaaand the Giro's on (yes, I know I should be riding bikes, not watching them):

    http://www.steephill.tv/giro-d-italia/#live
  16. Jim Moore

    Jim Moore Long timer

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    Hey Markjenn,

    How 'bout a square taper crank arm puller?

    Btw, to re-install the crankarms do you simply tighten the crank arm bolt to spec? Or do you need to press it back onto the spindle?
  17. Jim Moore

    Jim Moore Long timer

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    Quick question: If I wnat to sit around on the forums and brag about doing a century, do I have to do it solo or does a group effort count? I did 67 miles in a group yesterday and it seemed pretty easy. I think 100 miles with 8-10 modestly fit riders is doable.
  18. Dranrab Luap

    Dranrab Luap E-Tarded Super Moderator

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    Tightening the bolt to spec will press it back on Jim.
  19. Gummee!

    Gummee! That's MR. Toothless

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    If you can ride 67 solo, having someone to draft will make the longer ride cake. :nod

    My tale of woe comes next:

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  20. Gummee!

    Gummee! That's MR. Toothless

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    So I got goat-roped into helping a buddy with his Devil's Backbone ride. Its 2+ hrs away at Wintergreen, so I'm up at 0430 and driving by a little after 0500.

    Get there earlier than expected and waited for people to show. ...and waited... and... Helped set up the PA system, etc.

    So 1000 (ride start) comes up and I'm assigned to stop traffic till the riders leave the parking lot. (which I do) Then I can hop on the bike and head out with em. [​IMG]

    So there's 100+ cyclists wandering up the road to the first turn.

    Up a hill.

    So I'm riding thru the backmarkers and catch up to a guy on a similar bike to mine and start chit-chatting about steel cross bikes. We'd just climbed a steep section of the road and I was kvetching about it. ...till he sez 'too bad we haven't gotten to the steep part yet.'

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    Yup. Around the corner is a wall of road. 21% pitching straight up into the woods.

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    People were struggling with the pitch. People were getting off and walking. People were 'paperboy-ing' across the road ([​IMG]) in order to get up and over it. It was probably the steepest thing I've climbed in about forever. [​IMG] Really amazing that I was in my lowest gear, standing up on it, and barely moving faster'n a walk.

    As we crested the hill, it turned to dirt/gravel. Wheee! Till the ripple bumps.

    Hey! There's a water bottle!

    Lookit! There's more!

    Someone's gonna be upset that they lost their bottle... ...then *I* looked down, and sure nuff! one of mine was gone too. [​IMG]

    More in a bit. Gotta get gas for the big mower

    M