Bicycle thread

Discussion in 'Sports' started by Zodiac, Jul 10, 2006.

  1. Stinez

    Stinez Rhymes with Heinz :D

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    I'm not sure that I want to make that kind of financial commitment.

    I do like the looks of some of the less costly options but I'm not sure I actually need one for what I do. :dunno
  2. k7

    k7 Ancien cyclist

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    I'm sure there are low cost HRM that will allow you to download the data but without a GPS, you won't be able to overlay the data on a Garmin map - you'd be missing the time/distance/position data. The Garmin does that very nicely, it's power-efficient and is reasonably weatherproof.
  3. rbrsddn

    rbrsddn 3banger

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    +1 on the Garmin Edge 500. Definitely a good way to track your miles/progress throughout the year. I got the bundle with the cadence/speed and HRM, but haven't used the HRM yet. It provides a lot of useful data.
  4. RxZ

    RxZ Legal Drug Dealer

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    Yeah, I use a Garmin watch with HRM. Kinda pricey, but like said, the only way to accurately overlay a GPS track with HR. Also, mine is good for about 7 hours of tracking. Found that out on a MTB ride this past summer I should not have been on :eek1

    The first time I used mine on the bike, I was amazed that after about an hour of riding my average HR was 143. Sounds good, but based on my age it should have been in the mid-150s. Still a good workout, but the slightly higher heart rate is better at burning calories. Too high and you start burning protein, so that is why you want to monitor and keep it in a range.
  5. YakSpout

    YakSpout Obstacle Allusion

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    Do you have an iPhone? There are ANT+ compatible adapters that will let you add a HRM and it will track during your ride with various apps.

    Adapter for iPhone

    There are a few ANT+ Android phones, but not many and there are no adapters at this time.
  6. k7

    k7 Ancien cyclist

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    Any experience with these apps, the add-on device and battery life?
  7. Stinez

    Stinez Rhymes with Heinz :D

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    I have an android and just downloaded the instant heart rate app.

    I'll play with it before going any further into the heart rate monitor direction.
  8. Gummee!

    Gummee! That's MR. Toothless

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    Its that too, but its still a bad way to train.

    That's because you're a TT/Tri guy. Average speed is where its at for y'all. Max steady state riding = good for you. :nod You don't need to worry about anything else. Best way to screw up a triathlete? Vary the pace a bunch. Especially make em chase you down. :razor

    I rode with a pro triathlete once. Sonofagun could hold right at XXmph (I don't remember how fast, but it hurt!) for hours. Uphill, downhill didn't matter. He didn't have anything else except that one speed. It was a heckova speed, but that was his one trick.

    I liken Strava to loud pipes on cuisers. 'hey lookit ME!! I got a KOM!' The only positive I see out of it is if you use Strava as a benchmark to hit on specific training days for specific reasons. Otherwise, if you wanna race, race.

    See above about TT/tri guys and their riding. What works for y'all won't work for anyone racing anything else except maybe mtn biking and to a lesser extent cross.

    Doubt my head'll explode. I can and have ridden in the city. Its a different skill set than riding out here in the cowfields. ...and yeah, triathletes typically are NOT cyclists. :nah Keep those aero bars away from me! I've ridden with Emilio DeSoto and some of his friends too. I was expecting a bunch of out of control wankers but what I found were a group of decent cyclists that knew 'the rules.' So it ain't all of em. :nah

    I'm talking about the 'generic' training book: the Cyclist's Training Bible. I actually don't have a power meter other than the one on my Cateye Psychostimulator. ...and I can't see that AND the time at the same time right now. Gotta download the manual and see if I can't change some data fields around.

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  9. Oznerol

    Oznerol Motion Enthusiast

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    I've got an HRM strap and ANT iPhone widget from Wahoo. It works well. I actually use it with RunKeeper, rather than the Wahoo app. I don't recall noticing a big impact on battery life.

    In practice, though, I almost never remember to actually use the thing.
  10. YakSpout

    YakSpout Obstacle Allusion

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    Nope. I had an iPhone and used MapMyRide for a couple years then dumped ATT asap and switched to Android and Strava, which really doesn't do ANT except on a few phones. About the time I went from casual metric century rider to "I'd like to be able to keep up with my fast friends," I picked up a Garmin Edge 500 and that was my first HRM experience. The Garmin will run for a couple of loooong rides before it needs a charge and the sensor batteries seem to last as long as any other cyclometer sensors. :dunno
  11. Aurelius

    Aurelius Long timer

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    :lol3 Your head remains firmly buried in the sand on this point, Gummee. Your comparison to loud pipes couldn't be further off the mark. Loud pipes do nothing but harm your hearing. Strava allows riders of all levels to track their performance and assess their abilities. It allows you to monitor your heart rate, the energy you've expended in watts, and the total calories burned. It also shows you the areas where your performance is strong and where it's weak. By comparing my times on certain segments to those of other riders, I can see that I'm very strong when it comes to outright speed of flat grades. I'm in the middle of the pack on climbs and on technical trails, so these are the areas I need to devote more time to. I wouldn't be aware of any of this if it weren't for Strava. As for the allure of setting personal records, what exactly is wrong with that? Setting goals is what drives people to improve their abilities and achieve things they never would have thought possible at the outset. Why you continue to insist that only certain goals (i.e. race results) are legitimate is beyond me. The very fact that you need to make non-sensical comparisons to loud pipes shows that your opposition to Strava is devoid of any rational justification.
  12. ducnut

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  13. Mercury264

    Mercury264 Once you go Triple...

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    :rofl

    You sure do need to do a lot of justification eh...
  14. Gummee!

    Gummee! That's MR. Toothless

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    You keep dancing around the point. If you wanna race, race. The rest is hogwash.

    The reason people use strava instead of Training Peaks, the Garmin software, or even MapmyRide is they WANT people to see their results. ...just like loud pipe riders want people to look at them and think 'they're kewl.' :nod

    All the strava KOMs in the world don't mean diddly except for 'feel goods' and 'lookit ME!s'

    Comparing yourself to others is great IF it means something. IF its a means to an end. If you're 'racing' for yet another KOM what do you get other than 'I feel good about myself.' ?? :confused Congratulations you're the fastest Fred.

    You wanna track mileage, speed, HR, power, etc? Great. Its a good thing to do! There's sites (above) that let you compare you to you over time that aren't pseudo 'races.' After all, if you're not racing, what's it matter that you're the KOM? If there's no number on your back, its pretty well irrelevant how fast you are comparatively.

    If you're 'racing' for KOMs, why not put on a number and make it a real race? Go find out where you stand IRL rather than 'racing' someone electronically. The biggest thing that bugs me is the passive aggressiveness of 'racing' without really racing that strava is perpetuating.

    If you care that much about 'being fastest' but don't wanna race IRL... :dunno

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  15. ducnut

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  16. Gummee!

    Gummee! That's MR. Toothless

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    Chisenhallw Avowed Pussbag

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  18. YakSpout

    YakSpout Obstacle Allusion

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  19. Mercury264

    Mercury264 Once you go Triple...

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    :clap
  20. Mercury264

    Mercury264 Once you go Triple...

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    Watched 24 Solo last night. LOVED it :clap

    Those guys are fooking NUTS.

    Funny thing is, as I listened to the guy (Chris Eatough) I thought I detected a smidgin' of an English accent sprinkled in amongst all the southern drawl and sure enough, he was born in England but is now and American citizen....

    Anyhoo, fantastic video and I won't spoil the ending but boy, some people just have this ability to push their bodies to the limit and beyond.