Bicycle thread

Discussion in 'Sports' started by Zodiac, Jul 10, 2006.

  1. Aurelius

    Aurelius Long timer

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    Of course it's easier. That's why it's more enjoyable. Enjoying things because they're inherently unpleasant and dangerous is an indication of mental illness.
  2. Tallbastid

    Tallbastid Let's get tropical

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    Just being an ass... and who said anything about unpleasant?? I love the challenge of steep/super technical, but smooth and flowing is cool too; here in New England there just isn't much to be had. Those FL trails (from what I've seen on the webz) look fun as hell. This is a mototcycle forum; 99% of us like things that are dangerous...

    If liking things that are unpleasant and dangerous is indication of mental illness, you'd see more big-pharma sponsoring/promoting triatholons. Or Dakar. Or Harley Davidson.
  3. Aurelius

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    How can climbing up steep hills not be unpleasant? That's the kind of riding I did for years. Where I lived, you were either going down a steep hill or going up one. Thinking back on it, most of what I remember is constant burning pain in my legs and exhaustion. Kids weren't given cars by their parents in those days, so bicycling was basically the only way to get around. If the terrain were like that here, I'd give up bicycling altogether.

    'Challenging" shouldn't equated with "dangerous" or "unpleasant". There are technical trails I enjoy, but these are not physically exhausting like some others. Mostly they're rock gardens and heavily rooted areas, with lots of sharp turns and occasional drops. There are other technical trails consisting of incredibly steep climbs -- the kind where you have to depend on momentum to get you to the top, because they're too steep to pedal up. And they also contain hazards which can send even experienced riders to the emergency room. I have yet to meet anyone who says they enjoy those trails; most seem to ride them only for bragging rights or to practice for an upcoming race.
  4. Tallbastid

    Tallbastid Let's get tropical

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    It's mountain biking, man. It's dirty, difficult, dangerous, but fun as hell. The hills suck, but are balanced by the descents. Many people agree apparently; look at the trend in 6" all mountain bikes. Tons of people like riding the difficult/dangerous stuff. I'm talking New England here, too.... think of Colorado/Utah/BC.....
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    Wait:lurk. This should turn into a lively debate.:lol3
  6. Gummee!

    Gummee! That's MR. Toothless

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    Sez the climber-type. Phooey! Give me a nice field sprint or velodrome any day over that UPhill shit. :nod

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  7. HappyRiding

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    Used to be a climber - type...now I am "Gravitationally Challenged"

    Still, I always loved the challenge of the climb and the thrill of the descents both mtn and road.
  8. YakSpout

    YakSpout Obstacle Allusion

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    Sometimes it's like every troll from bf.net has been distilled and is being posted here one per week...
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  10. Aurelius

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    The kind of technical trails I prefer afford all those things, with the sole exception of steep elevation changes. But if it's steep elevation changes you want, you can get it without suffering the effects of severe exhaustion and lactic acid burn. Chuck Lennon mtb park, for instance, is one of several trails designed like a roller coaster. The climbs are steep, but by conserving your momentum from the steep descents that precede them, you don't wear yourself out. 'Gatorback', on the other hand, is the type of trail I'd never want to ride.

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  11. Tallbastid

    Tallbastid Let's get tropical

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    Don't get me wrong, that sounds awesome! We just don't have that around here. There's a trail in Vermont I rode a couple weeks ago, tough climb for about 30 minutes, feels like you're breathing glass.... then you reach the top and ride for about 2 miles on relatively flat singletrack, weaving through towering pines on super loamy/smooth soil. It was epic, the flow through there will bring me back in the spring for sure. If I'm able to, I'd love to check out Santos at some point. Until then, it's roots, hills and rocks around here.
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    Sorry Yak if ya think I have invaded your treehouse but I have been subscribed to this thread since 2008 off and on. Sometimes my inner cyclist gets the best of me and I just have to comment.
  13. mud

    mud I just wander.....

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    OK, What don't you like about that? THAT is mountain biking! That trail looks awesome!
  14. rbrsddn

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    I gotta get me one of those Go Pro's and video some of the technical trails we have here in CT. If Gatorback is one you'd never ride, you wouldn't like it here. There aren't many places where you can relax. Good for skills honing though! A good Orthopedic is a plus too!:deal:lol3
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    i was never a great climber, but worked at getting better at it; first for conservation of energy on tour, then later for the joy of descending.

    strafing a good twisty canyon on the moto is fun, as is a good alpine ski run... a good rip down a mountain road on a quality road bike is my favorite combination of those things. spending half an hour (or more) coming back down the trail on the side of a mountain you spent all day riding up is a close second.

    anyone talking about momentum to get up hills doesn't understand what the kind of climbing we're talking about is... as evidenced by the people here who are confusing "steep" with "elevation".

    but clearly, there's some misunderstanding on some folks' part about climbing; as someone who was never more than adequate at it but could do it on a loaded touring bike for days on end, i can attest that lactic acid buildup and exhaustion can all be dealt with by gearing, technique and training.
  16. Aurelius

    Aurelius Long timer

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    Here's a trail you might like if you make it down here. :evil

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  17. Tallbastid

    Tallbastid Let's get tropical

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    I'm a CT rider too. You been to Case mtn? That's where I ride 90% of the time. When I say MTB I'm thinking shenipsit trail. I'm not trying to wave the ol' hog, but Gatorback looks like a blast.
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    +1

    My old training routes had climbs 20+ miles long. Knowing where I was most efficient (mostly using a HR monitor) and gearing down accordingly allowed me to keep climbing as long as I kept eating and drinking. I might not have been the fastest climber on the mountain but I could wear my training buddies down by the time we reached the last big climb.

    The fastest time I had doing the Assault on Mt Mitchell was the year I put a triple on my Vitus.
  19. Aurelius

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    Everything. :lol3

    It looks awesome to YOU. To me, that type of trail is just a grueling, punishing ride. And like all the rest, it's worse in reality than it looks on video. :puke1
  20. Tallbastid

    Tallbastid Let's get tropical

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    Climbs for me vary between 30 seconds and 25 minutes to climb my local 'mountain'. Since I dont monitor my heart rate, I'd bet I used to max out my heart rate climbing as fast as I could. I've realized it's much more fun to slowup the climb a little and save more energy for the flatter/downhill sections later on in the ride. Needless to say, I'm not a very fast climber... but my Reign prefers the downhills anyways.