Bicycle thread

Discussion in 'Sports' started by Zodiac, Jul 10, 2006.

  1. Gummee!

    Gummee! That's MR. Toothless

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    Climbing steep hills on any mtn bike means putting your taint WAY up on the nose of the saddle and bringing your face right down towards the bar and 'rowing' your bike up the hill.

    Rowing = pulling back and down to drive the rear wheel into the ground at the power portion of your pedal stroke. You still need to have a smooth pedal stroke or you'll break traction.

    HTH

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  2. ducnut

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    Agreed.
  3. Aurelius

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    Gotta replace my clipless pedals with a set of flats before I do any more climbing practice. :lol3

    Also, what happens when you stall out on a steep climb? Once the bike is moving forward, traction isn't as big an issue, but trying to start from a dead stop on a hill just causes the rear wheel to spin.
  4. Aurelius

    Aurelius Long timer

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    I think the Vortex trail at Santos is unsafe. Lose control in some areas, and you could go home in a body bag. :grim
  5. Chisenhallw

    Chisenhallw Avowed Pussbag

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    I don't know from mtn biking, but I use <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Shimano-PD-A530-Dual-Platform-Pedal/dp/B001MZ2AGO/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1357139500&sr=8-5&keywords=shimano+pedals">these</a> on my Sirrus, and I find them very useful for intense urban cyclo-flogging.
  6. ducnut

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    Leaving them on is how you're going to learn to quickly get out of them. I've only ever fallen over once, because I couldn't get unclipped. And, that was because I was unwilling to give up climbing the hill.

    You walk it.
  7. Aurelius

    Aurelius Long timer

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    I can already unclip instantly without having to think about it. Flats would just give me a little more peace of mind, so I can concentrate on the task at hand. :1drink

    That's cheating. :nono
  8. Weirdo

    Weirdo Welcome to you're "DOOM"

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    I went to flats years ago for any real technical riding. I also can get out of a set of clips without thinking of it instantly, but for bridges and stunts flats are the way to go. You may lose something for climbing, but not enough to make it worth it for me. If your ten feet up on a teeter-totter and it goes wrong, you want to be able to abandon ship in a hurry.

    What Gummee said about climbing steeps is bang on, you got to get on the rivet and tuck your elbows in to your ribs then punch it. Sounds obvious, but the faster you can go the easier it is, having enough momentum to roll over whatever is going to hang you up is key, then keeping the power going down come hell or high water. Being fit is a big player in being proficient in the technical stuff. Having consistent and ample power is huge.

    There are climbs in Whistler that I've tried to make for decades (literally) that I've come within three pedal strokes to making, but never have. Usually after burning out or spazing I&#8217;d make a noise like Chewbacca and want to throw my bike into the woods.
    :lol3
  9. Gummee!

    Gummee! That's MR. Toothless

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  10. pierce

    pierce Aven'Tourer

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    I use these on my hybrid...

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    They or similar would rock on a mtn bike. can wear a walking shoe, or most anything. the pins hold your foot almost as securely as a SPD cleat for anything other than pulling straight up (eg the 'scrape your shoe' motion at the bottom of the stroke works just fine)
  11. Gummee!

    Gummee! That's MR. Toothless

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    I'm confused. You're going to go to flats so you can work on one aspect of a ride that lasts how long? :confused

    No such thing. Sometimes it IS faster/easier to get off and carry the bike. :nod You'll note I said 'carry' and not 'push.' You push the bike and its beaten you. Carry it and you're still showing it who's boss. :nod

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  12. Weirdo

    Weirdo Welcome to you're "DOOM"

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    Spoken like a true cross rider.
  13. Mercury264

    Mercury264 Once you go Triple...

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    Silly question....can you use the 'flat' part of the pedal while wearing shoes with clips (If that makes sense) ? I like the look of these but what I'd like to be able to do is clip in on the flat portion of rides and then, say, when going uphill, flip the pedal over so I don't have issues un-clipping when going uphill.

    Hope that made sense...
  14. Aurelius

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    I've definitely benefited from flats while climbing some really steep (but short) slopes. If I run out of inertia just before reaching the top, that extra power I can generate by pulling up hard on a pedal keeps me from stalling out. But on rock strewn trails with a steep drop on one side, I'd rather not be clipped in.

    I've pretty much got the technique down regarding body position, but I wanted to test a claim made by a couple of other riders that the smallest gear up front will get me up any hill. In retrospect, I think using the middle gear would have worked much better.

    I know what you're saying. I actually hate trails like the ones I was on, but it pisses me off that others can ride them and that I can't. :ruskie So I'm going to keep practicing until I figure it out. Once I've done it, I'll probably never ride them again. :D

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  15. zouch

    zouch part-time wanderer

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    no, spoken as if the bike cared,... :rofl
  16. Aurelius

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    Yes, although you really need to be wearing clipless riding shoes with flexible rubber soles to get traction on the 'flat' side. The Bontrager shoes I wore yesterday have hard plastic soles, and will slide all over the place on flat pedals. They're completely useless for anything but clipless pedals. They also SUCK mightily for walking on rocky slopes, as I found out. :bluduh
  17. Chisenhallw

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    I've narrowed it down to 'earth'. Or 'Baltimore'.
    It does and they do. I unclip & pedal on the flat side when I think I'm gonna need to kick a cab or a bus. :lol3 I wear <a href="http://www.zappos.com/pearl-izumi-x-alp-seek-iv-shadow-grey-silver">these</a> with those pedals, and it's a very good 'around town' combination.
  18. Aurelius

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    As long as I want it to last. I can ride red trails all day out there, if I have the energy and the inclination.

    Well sure it is, but my purpose is learning to RIDE up steep hills, not to carry my bike up. :scratch
  19. Mercury264

    Mercury264 Once you go Triple...

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    Got it - I think the ones I have have a harder sole so that's great information.

    Thanks - I like the look of them. I might need to invest in some of those as the ones I have will probably not work going by what Aurelius said.
  20. Aurelius

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    Ones like Chisenhallw has are what you need. I have a pair of those, and they work great on both flats and clipless pedals. They're also very good for walking in. Their only real disadvantage is that they're flexible like a pair of sneakers, so your feet will move around inside them as the material stretches when pedaling hard. I'm also informed that they're not as comfortable on long rides because they don't provide enough support, but I haven't done enough back to back comparisons to say for sure.