Bicycle thread

Discussion in 'Sports' started by Zodiac, Jul 10, 2006.

  1. RxZ

    RxZ Legal Drug Dealer

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    Honest question... How is that different from heart rate?

    Although, I suppose you could shift up a few gears and really mash. That would increase the power you put down, but with fewer revolutions at the crank. Is that more what the power meters are measuring?
  2. k7

    k7 Ancien cyclist

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    Check this link....

    http://www.joefrielsblog.com/2012/01/why-you-need-a-power-meter.html

    This section really applied to my worst day on the brevet...it's exactly how I conserved energy and finished that day:

    Using a power meter in a long steady-state race such as a triathlon or long time trial is almost like cheating. When everyone else is fighting a head wind, excitedly going too fast down wind or guessing how hard to push when going up hill, the athlete with a power meter is just rolling along at the prescribed power. He or she will produce the fastest possible ride given the conditions so long as the optimal target power has been determined through training and observed closely during the race. While something similar can be done with heart rate there are some confounding factors such as the excitement of a race, cardiac drift, the acute effect of diet and the slow response of pulse on hills, accelerating out of corners or when passing others.​
  3. JRose

    JRose Been here awhile

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    Don't get me wrong, I'm not selling it as a neccassity, but coming from training with HR and going to PM, I prefer the PM

    For instance with my tri bike, my HR actually goes up when I come up out of aero, while my power goes down. Weird, and I don't know why..

    Also, I find it better for pacing myself during a triathlons. during my last race (70.3 tri) my HR was jacked for the first :45 of the bike. I stuck to my plan, and the target power I was supposed to keep, but my HR was still bouncing between 155-160. After about :45 I settled in, and my HR came down to the 130's where it was supposed to be. If using HR, I would've been bagging it for almost an hour. I don't know if it was the fact that I was really hyped up about this race, or if I overdid it in the swim that caused that, but it was weird.

    Also, my HR does funny crap in the cold temps.
  4. Aurelius

    Aurelius Long timer

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    There's a local rider whose objective seems to be to take every KOM on his favorite local trail. The problem is that the individual records at the top of the leader board are so close that any error in your GPS data can artificially move you several places up or down. He understands this, and will bitch and moan endlessly when he thinks that Strava has 'cheated' him out of a KOM, but he refuses to concede that this type of error works both ways: he may in fact have been going faster than Strava says he was on one ride, but it's just as likely that he was going slower than Strava said he was on other rides. And if that's the case, then it's questionable whether ANY of his KOM's are valid. :deal
  5. Dranrab Luap

    Dranrab Luap E-Tarded Super Moderator

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    You just made a great case for a real race!
  6. Gummee!

    Gummee! That's MR. Toothless

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    So last nite's Wed World's got t-stormed out. :bluduh

    Nice ALL day till about time to get ready to go riding, then this big line of t-storms moves through.

    Oh well.

    I'm not skeered of riding in the rain, but I don't particularly like riding in t-storms. :nono

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  7. Aurelius

    Aurelius Long timer

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    :rofl Give it up, dude. The number of random variables that determine the outcome of a 'real race' are orders of magnitude greater than a possible GPS error of one or two seconds.
  8. Mr. Magoo

    Mr. Magoo n/a

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    I was a hard core roadie and racer for years. Now I'm on this and loving it!

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  9. Tallbastid

    Tallbastid Let's get tropical

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    Anyone seen/heard/ridden the new Enduro 29er? I'm intrigued... All mtn suspension (6"), 29" wheels, XL frame. I'm a big bastard... and though I'm used to riding small bikes, I've always wondered what a properly-fitting bike would feel like. Chainstays are super short which I like, low BB, had great luck with the same fox suspension on my Reign... I'm guessing the rear shock spec'ed is fancy pants Specialized talk for an RP23? Questions would be if A. The wheels are strong enough for me and B. If a triple crown fork could be used for some moderate lift served DH.

    BTW - given up on the cross/road bikes.

    http://www.specialized.com/us/en/bikes/mountain/endurofsr/enduro-comp-29#specs
  10. Mercury264

    Mercury264 Once you go Triple...

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    You're wasting your breath....he doesn't want to race, just brag about times.
  11. Aurelius

    Aurelius Long timer

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    Wasn't that your little todger flapping in the breeze yesterday? :evil
  12. RxZ

    RxZ Legal Drug Dealer

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    Thanks guys. I get it now, but still won't be buying one :deal

    Mainly because I do not race, just ride for fun and exercise. Also because of cost.
  13. Gummee!

    Gummee! That's MR. Toothless

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    Rescued my first turtle today. :thumb

    2/3rds of the way thru the 2hr loop with 3 x 5 @ 10sec CP Jumps in there. Ugh are my legs tired.

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  14. Mercury264

    Mercury264 Once you go Triple...

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    Nope. Never posted anything to Strava. Feel free to keep on digging.
  15. Rajin Cajun

    Rajin Cajun Been here awhile

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    Well I competed in my first ever TT this past Tuesday evening. I came in last out of 26 riders but, it was only my 3rd time out on the new whip and I was riding with some real animals! They were really great and I had an absolute blast! I have ridden the same route over the last few days trying to better my time but the winds have not been my friend. I have to say that the bug has definitely bitten me! :clap
  16. kbasa

    kbasa Roubaix! Super Moderator

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    What I did last Sunday. Epic, but nothing compared to the 107/12K day coming this Saturday.

    <iframe height='405' width='590' frameborder='0' allowtransparency='true' scrolling='no' src='http://app.strava.com/activities/52615069/embed/0a761a72fdb84409d0872b5a58c56dd50703c201'></iframe>
  17. kbasa

    kbasa Roubaix! Super Moderator

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    I'm an endurance rider and it helps me manage effort over long distances so I can get home. If I keep my HR out of zone 5, I can ride with far less fatigue.

    YMMV, but if you're maxing your HR, you're wasting your time out there.
  18. 2whl-hoop

    2whl-hoop Long timer

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    When I did the century, a couple weeks ago, right away in the morning, I could tell we had a tail wind helping us. My riding partner and I got passed quite a bit, but I was doing my best to hold back. I didn't want it to feel at all like I was working. I'm sure I conserved energy, but I blew it later on the hills. My legs felt really good and I passed long lines of riders on big hills, but later in the day I couldn't even get my heart rate to come up much. Was that because my legs were dead or my heart? :ear I figured it was because my legs were wasted...
  19. k7

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    Dunno - it's been my experience that my HR won't plateau until the ~ 80 mile point of the second day of riding after I've ridden at least 200 miles the day before. At that point, my HR won't go above 145.

    Having said that, I'd love to hear of others' experiences with their HR plateauing.

    I suspect you hit the hills too hard esp if you were passing others.
  20. YakSpout

    YakSpout Obstacle Allusion

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    I am DEFINITELY not you. :rofl I can gas out 15 miles in if I go too hard. A nice looooong warmup seems to keep that from happening, but I've had 40mi rides where I attacked a climb (a short 18%er near my house) just a couple miles in and wan't able to hit Z3 for the rest of the ride. Legs/lungs were done and I limped the rest of the ride.