Bicycle thread

Discussion in 'Sports' started by Zodiac, Jul 10, 2006.

  1. k7

    k7 Ancien cyclist

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    First world problems. Everyone complained about the chipseal in Texas on our last ride. I noticed it but on the recumbent, it's not a huge, huge issue.
  2. k7

    k7 Ancien cyclist

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    Jeebus - if I didn't already have an 810, I'd jump all over that.
  3. YakSpout

    YakSpout Obstacle Allusion

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    I read the link really quickly and thought "Cyclopedia of Fredding, that sounds like an awesome shop."

    :rofl
  4. manfromthestix

    manfromthestix Lost in Space

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    Well I wish you nothing but success and joy doing something you love! My wife is very passionate about her teaching and works magic with little kids, but if she can't pay the bills she can't help anyone.

    Another lesson we've learned over the years is that while a normal creditor like a bank can repossess a car/bike/motorcycle/house/jet ski/etc. that you purchased using credit from them, you can't repossess a service you've extended to someone. I'm a hydrogeologist and ran a consulting business for a while (siting water wells, doing environmental clean-ups, etc.) and played hell getting paid for my services sometimes. My wife has had to take two deadbeats to task for not paying tuition/fees and it is a huge PITA with a low return for effort expended. Small claims court is a black hole. If there's any way possible, hold on to the customer's bike (or something of value) until you are paid in full.

    Riding news - it's glorious outside, zero breeze, blue sky, 77*F, modest humidity, green as it can be, so off for a spin! On my lunch ride I confirmed that chip seal does indeed suck the Big Wazoo. VDOT is gleefully ruining the rest of the road that they didn't trash yesterday. On a positive note, it's only two miles to the smooth real pavement and I did get to spray my favorite attack pit bull in the face with pepper spray (2nd time I've gotten him out of maybe 25 attacks by that fooker) AND I got to see a HUGE black snake sunning himself in one of the few spots VDOT hasn't covered with loose gravel on my road. He was COOL, stretched across about 3/5 of the road. All in all, a less-than-optimal ride is still a fantastic way to spend some time.

    Doug
  5. Mr Head

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  6. k7

    k7 Ancien cyclist

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    I enjoyed some of those....very funny!

    In reference to Rule #9, I've been called many thing. "Too stupid to come in out of the rain" comes to mind. Now, I find out that I'm "badass". Who knew? :dunno

    Rule #9 // If you are out riding in bad weather, it means you are a badass. Period.
    Fair-weather riding is a luxury reserved for Sunday afternoons and wide boulevards. Those who ride in foul weather – be it cold, wet, or inordinately hot – are members of a special club of riders who, on the morning of a big ride, pull back the curtain to check the weather and, upon seeing rain falling from the skies, allow a wry smile to spread across their face. This is a rider who loves the work.
  7. YakSpout

    YakSpout Obstacle Allusion

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    The rules have been around for years. :D

    The only one I really care about is #5. We'll shout "HTFU" if one of us starts to snivel on a ride.

    In the same vein, shouting, "Shut UP, legs!" is a great way to get a group laughing during a rough patch, assuming they know who Jens is. And they should, dammit.

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  8. Mr Head

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    I've ridden in rain, hail, wind and snow. Yep, pretty much too stupid. Ridden in the wind, and even seen funnel clouds and motorhomes flying by.
    Stupid. I didn't die and got stronger as a rider so I count it as a win.

    I'm old enough now, I ignore most rules. Be they for sport and civility. I think there is a point where it is OK to finally not give a damn. I wear what is comfortable and if I think I'll be needing a lot of water, I carry it in a pack. Don't care what anybody thinks. They can go fucking thirsty. I prefer comfort. I am willing to make my legs sore, but, am no longer willing to put up with shaving. hell, I don't even shave my face on weekends, or vacation.
    Once upon a time I entertained the notion that I could thrive only on a bike. A bicycle. I've found over time and moves I can't.
    But, it is still a dream, an ideal.

    Eddy was badass. Older and heavier as are most of us, I met him once during a stage race in Colorado. We talked a little as we could. He asked if the motorcycle I was on could wheelie, and was it fast. I answered with a wheelie and no it was not fast. Faster than a bicycle, faster than the earlier models, but not fast by racing standards. he was on a bicycle with just a couple of others. I only ever saw him race as have many this side of the pond on film, "The Stars and the Water Carriers", or "The Hell of The North".

    Hinault was a badass too. I met him when he was still racing. He had that Eddy Lawson stare that seemed to turn anybody he looked at to stone.

    Price of the bike has little to do with how badass the riders are. One year we met the Russian team. They had almost no kit with them, and what they did have was a mix and match. They were hard men though. Fit and tough. Funny guys too.

    Anyway, back to rules. I look at rules as things to be broken. Unless breaking a rule would be a safety issue. As we all know, "Safety Third".

    And above all nothing is that serious. You want to ride a wheelie on a $20K CF roadie. Fine by me. As long as it isn't mine.

    Mountain bike on big goofy wheels? Fine. I still have 26 inch tires to wear out. I am cheap, and would ride a KLR if they weren't Kawasakis.:lol3

    Bottom line: I'm going for ride tomorrow. Strava and a few others may record the event, route and document just about how slowly one old man can accomplish that. Screw the KOM, it's a ride not a race. As long as I'm still moving under my own power I am KOM!:clap
    Then I'll clean some on the house, and prep the motorcycle for my last stint in the desert. Again another stupid idea it's nearly 100 every damned day here. That helmet is going to smell like goats used it for a toilet, then set it to fester in that desert sun.:rofl

    ..'cause me and Eddy? well, you know we're badass.:freaky
  9. Gummee!

    Gummee! That's MR. Toothless

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    Old racers are allowed to break the rules 'cause they've already proven what a badass they are/were. :nod

    The ones that haven't proven what a badass they are, have to follow the rules.

    Speaking of old riders... I saw a dood today on my ride in a Bell V-1! :eek IIRC his bike had exposed brake cables, so the combo fits.

    4.5hrs of mixed surfaces. Probably 60/40 gravel. Ugh. Man are my legs beat!

    M

    edited to add: No WONDER my legs are tired. 7000ish feet of climbing on this route. :eek1
  10. somecallmetim

    somecallmetim Surf &/or Die

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    The Mom & Pop LBS around the corner from me carries Redline & the other brands from SBS...

    http://www.seattlebikesupply.com/
  11. Mr Head

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    When ever I've encountered chip seal, (cured) it always takes me back to a ride we did from downtown Denver north along Riverdale road out toward Fort Collins. i forget most of that ride other than there was a point along a frontage road on the East side of I-25 where the pavement had been removed. We hit that gravel at about the same time the sky opened up. This was not the usual afternoon shower, this was mid-morning on a Saturday. We rode 30 miles of washboard roadbase gravel finally hitting pavement when we turned west. We stopped at a cafe and asked if we could use the hose. Then were able to negotiate them bringing food out to the picnic table outside so we would not make a huge mess of their small place. That waitress got a good tip. The locals were entertained by a half dozen guys hosing themselves off, nearly completely covered in mud.
    That was our version of Paris Roubaix. Chip/seal always reminds me of that and how great it feels when you hit the smooth stuff again.

    The worst road I've ever ridden was the concrete plates between Sedalia and the Springs No idea what the road was now. Man the joints there beat your sore to the touch legs to death. Our wrists felt like they were shattered. rather than ride that ugly road back we tried the East side of I-25, only to be beaten by Castlerock by wind and snow, and a big nasty cold front out of the northwest.
    The only one of our wives who happened to be home was the one furthest from us. We had a long cold wait outside that truckstop. I used up the two emergency twenties I carried in my tiresock that day feeding our sorry selves. When we had set off early that morning we had been assured of clear sailing and mild winter weather. Snow beginning as slush turning to sleet/ice/snow lashed by the wind and passing cars and big trucks nearly froze us.
    That was back when a hundred miles wasn't far enough to feel like work. We began breaking our rules of no riding unless it was above freezing. That was modified to above 20, and was massively and comically violated at -20F. No body parts were lost but we were bruised from a full team ice-flip onto our collective backs as we turned around at the Buckley gate. At least the guards got a good chuckle.:lol3
    Taught me the carbon fiber sole of my cycling shoes worked about as well on ice as dull skate blades.
  12. Gummee!

    Gummee! That's MR. Toothless

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    I don't have either an upper or lower limit to the temps I'll ride in. ...as long as it isn't icy/snowy, I'm game. ...and even when its snowy, if I'm caught out in it, I'll still keep going. We started one ride this winter at 19deg F. The bridge of my nose froze till I got warmed up!

    Drivers around here suck badly enough that riding right after a snowstorm is a risky proposition, so see above for icy/snowy. I'll usually *gasp!* ride a trainer instead. Rode zero trainer days last winter and 2 this winter. :bluduh Can you tell I HATE trainers?!

    All goes back to 'no such thing as bad weather, just inadequate gear.' :nod

    M
  13. TheNedster

    TheNedster Lurkapotamus

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  14. kbasa

    kbasa Roubaix! Super Moderator

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    I bought some black silicone wristbands that have Harden The Fuck Up embossed in them and handed them out to my team. :lol3
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    kbasa Roubaix! Super Moderator

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    It's pretty much what we ride on out here on the small roads.
  16. pierce

    pierce Aven'Tourer

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    do you run 28's on your training rides in the marin, sonoma back roads? I would.
  17. zouch

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    punk sounds like an example of why sometimes it's best to fire a customer.

    i expect to pay a fair price for what i receive.
    shops have done me many favors that are more valuable than the few bucks i might have milked out of them on discounts (for example, squeezing a quick fix into their sked, or ordering something for me on just a phone call), usually because i've earned 'Friend of Shop' status by not insisting on being first in line in front of others, or by helping a noob find something onthe shelves when the shop staff was swamped. in general, i try to be the kind of customer that i would want.
    be a dickbag? expect to be treated/charged like one. :wink:

    only shop advice i've seen here that hasn't already been mentioned in some of the other good advice might be to see if you can find a way to make space for a couch to go with that coffeemaker (if building a Shop Culture is the sort of thing you want). while the people who spend the most time there might not be the ones spending the most money, they're likely to be the ones who will spread the word about how Cool your shop is.

  18. zouch

    zouch part-time wanderer

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    pfft.

    rules?
    1. Ride.
    2. ride where/when/what you like. like where/when/what you ride.
    3. have your own rules; nobody elses matter.


  19. zouch

    zouch part-time wanderer

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    i've settled on 25s on my go-fast bike for most of the crappy roads around here (that happen to be the places i most like to ride), though it's as much because of my being <ahem!> "GS size", it makes sense to run a slightly larger tire as anything else.
    25s might spin up a tad less quickly than 23s because of the rotating weight, but i can't say i notice a huge difference in rolling resistance. upside is they feel a bit cushier, and allow me to worry a little bit less about slamming the rims when ripping a heavily-textured descent.
    i'm not unhappy with (high-quality) 23s and still have them for smoother situations, but 28s aren't an option as they wouldn't be able to fit in the CF fork.
    on some bikes i've mixed slightly larger tires on the rear, but the current go-fast bike has crisp-enough geometry that i don't like the way it handles when the tires aren't a matched size.

    the bikes i use for everything but go-fast generally don't wear anything smaller than 32s or larger. (the townie-fixie wears 42s; the lock-it-up-for-errands bike wears 1.95 'dual-sport-ish' tread.)


  20. Weirdo

    Weirdo Welcome to you're "DOOM"

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    I enjoyed this expansion of Rule #9.

    It rains so much around here, I printed this out and hung it on my office door. Some days I need a kick in the ass to get out and make the first revolution of my cranks, after that I'm good.

    ON RULE #9: LOVE THE WORK

    by frank / Oct 31 2011 / 338 posts
    Fitness. The rhythm, the feeling of precision in our movement, the sensations of The Ride. The temptation of knowing we might in some way control our suffering even as we push harder in spite of the searing pain in our legs and lungs. The notion that through suffering, we might learn something rudimentary about ourselves – that we might find a kind of salvation.

    Cycling, like Art, is based on the elementary notion that through focussed study, we might better understand ourselves. But to describe Cycling as a an Art does it an injustice. An artist, they say, suffers because they must. A Cyclist, I suggest, suffers because we choose to.

    This element of choice, what psychologists refer to as the locus of control, is part of what allows us to feel pleasure through suffering. Through this choice unfolds an avenue of personal discovery by which we uncover the very nature of ourselves. Like Michelangelo wielding his hammer to chip away fragments of stone that obscure a great sculpture, we turn our pedals to chip away at our form, eventually revealing our true selves as a manifestation of hard work, determination, and dedication to our craft.

    Having chosen this path, we quickly find that riding a bicycle on warm, dry roads through sunny boulevards is the realm of the recreational cyclist. As winter approaches, the days get shorter and the weather worse. Form tempts us to greater things, but leaves us quickly despite our best intentions. Its taste lingers long upon the tongue and urges us to gain more. Even as life gets in the way, we cannot afford many days away from our craft before we find ourselves struggling to reclaim lost fitness.

    To find form in the first place, and to maintain it in the second, is a simple matter of riding your bicycle a lot. This simple task asks of us, however, a year-round commitment to throwing our leg over a toptube in heat, cold, wind, rain, or sleet, lest we spend months fighting to reclaim last year’s lost condition.

    But with riding in bad weather is revealed a hidden secret. It is in the rain and the cold, when all the seductive elements of riding a bicycle have vanished, that we are truly able to ensconce ourselves in the elemental qualities of riding a bicycle. Good weather and beautiful scenery, after all, are distractions from the work. Without them, we have only those elements that we ourselves bring to The Ride: the rhythm, harmony between rider and machine, our suffering, and our thoughts. As the rain pours down and all but the most devoted stay indoors, we pull on extra clothing and submit into the deluge.

    We are the Few, we are the Committed. We are those who understand that riding in bad weather means you’re a badass, period.