No blanket statement, just against their Ti. I've seen/read too much on the intricacies of manufacturing Ti frames. Knowing everything I've seen/read/heard on Asian manufacturing, I'm not willing to trust my well-being to them on a Ti frame. My closest cycling friend rides a 6/13. I drool over it, every time I see it. Haha. You know exactly who I'm getting at. I've got Lynskey on the brain. And strangely, just met a guy the other day who knew of me but hadn't been able to track me down. We get to BS-ing about bikes and came upon the subject of our "forever" bike desires. He's jonesing for a Lynskey, too. I know they work deals on multiples. When I get my shit together, I'm thinking of a Retul session with my current ride to get an idea of where I need to be and go from there (a Lynskey Fargo could be a possibility). Also, saw your LBS has become a Retul fitter, as well.