Bicycle thread

Discussion in 'Sports' started by Zodiac, Jul 10, 2006.

  1. nuggets

    nuggets It's all my fault...

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    Whoops, that was more a general aside. Not aimed at you. Sorry.


    Also trying to inject some humor since the ebikes thing seems to really divide bikers right now.
  2. nuggets

    nuggets It's all my fault...

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  3. Gummee!

    Gummee! That's MR. Toothless

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    More butts on seats is a good thing.

    Moto AND bicycle

    Maybe enough people ride em and we won't be 2nd class citizens on the road any more

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  4. fullmonte

    fullmonte Reformed Kneedragger

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    The problem is when ebikes reach critical mass. This tipping point occurs when every shmuck with some credit buys one and then BOOM! Problems for all road/trail users around them will happen due to the ebike riders’ negligence. I call this the Jetski Effect. Everything was great when they were stand up models that required skills, so only a few people owned them. Sit down models ruined it for boaters and responsible jetski owners because any dipshit could pilot a no skills required watercraft.
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  5. kixtand

    kixtand Long timer

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  6. chippertheripper

    chippertheripper motorcycle junkie

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    @nuggets, you could’ve just left the Ebikes bit out of it and none of us would’ve cared.
    You’re talking to a bunch of dedicated cyclists (I use that loosely) in this thread, so yeah, there’s some extensive knowledge about componentry and nerdiness, and a general disdain for cheating.
    E bikes have their place, for sure. Our collective opinions just skew on the whos, the whys, and the whens from time to time.
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  7. Christine94

    Christine94 Adventurer

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    What are you entitled to that you are being denied by the ebike rider? I'm happy to have one less car on the road. In fact I'd call that a win.
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  8. chippertheripper

    chippertheripper motorcycle junkie

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    Who says I think I’m entitled to anything?
    One less car is a win. To your point, as a commuter, an ebike is perfect, imo. As it is if you have a heart condition or physical handicap.
    All I’m saying is: bicycles and ebikes are different. I’m also on record here as saying it’s ok to race ebikes as long as they have their own class.
    Please, don’t go sideways and put words in my mouth on this.
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  9. Askel

    Askel Perma-n00b

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    Ooo! A beer snob and an e-bike snob fight going down at the same time! FIGHT! FIGHT!

    Coming up next: You are a horrible person because of your choice in wheel size and or bottom bracket standard.
  10. Maritimer

    Maritimer Bikeless Adventurer

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    @Ridge Are you headed to Pisgah this weekend for the 111km? A friend of mine from my hometown will be racing there. He typically travels to 6-8 NUEMTB races per season and is racing in the 50+ masters class.
    If so, keep an eye out for Alan Miner, he may be in Bank Bikes kit (or Rescue Racing kit)
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  11. Christine94

    Christine94 Adventurer

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    The entitlement was established by your use of the word cheating.

    You have either a short or selective memory.
  12. Ridge

    Ridge Outlier Extraordinaire

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    More butts on two-wheeled seats is a good thing... IF the heads that choose to place those butts on two wheels know WTF they are doing in regards to how their choice to drop coin on a bike (moto or pedal) has consequences for everyone else riding a bike and not just them.

    Every single person on a bike (pedal and moto) is an ambassador and representative in their situation for ALL of us that ride. Every single non-rider is making observations and judgements on the actions of the riders they encounter throughout any given day. Just like cyclists get frustrated at pedestrians that walk dogs without any care where the leash lead is taking them and/or are deaf to the environment around them due to earbuds because that's their "quiet" time...

    It sounds like a slippery slope argument because it is... those that were properly introduced to the etiquette and unspoken rules of cycling on the road, in large groups, at speed, sometimes in races, with the multitude of variables therein; they understand the responsibility of their actions and decisions far better than the flippant consumer with a credit card that thinks it would be "fun" to get into biking because E-bikes make it easier to join the ranks of experienced cyclists without having to put in the time, effort, and skill building that the rest of us have.

    There is no regulation or required training to buy a bicycle and place it on the road... that's both a good thing and a very bad thing. The good is that the barrier of entry to get anyone a basic means of travel is very, very low... but the bad part is that person may not have the first clue that there are actual laws that govern how a bicycle can safely and legally move through the real world of traffic and other road users. No bicycle shop that I know of has any sort of process in place to qualify how their customers intend to use the bikes being purchased.

    Just in case you are wondering; this is not a "You kids get off my lawn" moment... it's more of "Hey kids, that's new grass and where you step matters." Think before you act...

    Who teaches things like this to those new riders?

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  13. Ridge

    Ridge Outlier Extraordinaire

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    Not it... last time I did Pisgah111, it was raining buckets like it is now (and is predicted to for the next 5 days), and I crashed on slicked out muddy, rocky trails 4 times in the first 17 miles. My local racing buddy that just returned from the PMBAR race broke three ribs on that course... Pisgah will hurt you even under ideal conditions.

    I "might" race XC up in Virginia Saturday... depending on if my points are in jeopardy. It'll still be a mudfest, but at least not combined with billion year old boulders and mountains... :D
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  14. chippertheripper

    chippertheripper motorcycle junkie

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    I think this is a case of impercieved tone via the internet.
    My point is, they’re different, and yes, they each have their place. Will that satisfy you?
  15. dogsslober

    dogsslober No neck tie, Ti neck

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    That frame was sold in the late 1980/1990 by SuperGo mail order, it was originally a 26" cantilever brake frame. 385.00 if I remember right.
    2007 I had Dan Nelson, NTP bikes in SF remove the canti brake bosses and weld disk mount and hose guides on it.
    Couple of years ago I cut the cross braces out of the rear and squeezed 29" wheels on it.
    Love my old bike, great ride to it, 21 lbs
    SuperGo had that frame and road frames they started over 1000.00 but didn't sell well. Then they started dropping the price, hind site I should have bought one of the road frames.
    Said they where welded in SoCal my Aerospace workers
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  16. kixtand

    kixtand Long timer

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    Sandvik welded them??
  17. Christine94

    Christine94 Adventurer

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    Short memory. You should have that checked.

    I was only teasing you. :D
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  18. chippertheripper

    chippertheripper motorcycle junkie

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    I once told my wife that she wasn't good at jokes. I've learned enough to expect the same reaction were I to say the same thing to you.
    You did, after all, accuse me of being "the guy" who yells at people on the bike path and shit.
    I'm good, we can hug it out like homies over a beer. Maybe pour some on the ground out of respect for dead Ebike batteries or something.
  19. Christine94

    Christine94 Adventurer

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    No I didn't. My contribution was "you stupid American". :lol3
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  20. Crocker

    Crocker Just passing through

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    i just joined as well, thanks. should help keep me motivated. I've set some goals to accomplish next year I need to work on :deal
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