Bicycles on the road

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by ThatOtherGuy, Oct 12, 2011.

  1. Gummee!

    Gummee! That's MR. Toothless

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    Wrong. I ride the way you're suggesting and I get hassled much more than the way I actually ride. :nod I've tried it both ways. Mine works better. :nod

    I'm gonna call bullshit on this one. If your family member was one of those cyclists in the road, you wouldn't have driven anywhere close to the way you did. Pretty much no one would if it was their family member. I've seen it for the last 20 years... Shit don't change for the better unless someone in the immediate family starts riding something with 2 wheels.

    I've see the results of what happens when a family member takes up MCing. All of a sudden everyone else in the family sees MCs everywhere and gives em a wider berth. Happens with bicycles too, just not nearly as often.

    Mutual respect? Bah. Respect has to work 2 ways for it to work.

    Respect from MC riders and car drivers means passing when its safe and giving a wide enough berth to make sure that its safe, not yelling or throwing things at us, etc. That's respect. Me giving up my rights to the road isn't respect. :nono

    Assertiveness works much better. :nod Working with the driver behind you works much better. IOW use hand signals to tell em if it isn't safe to pass, etc.

    There's more, but I gotta run

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  2. Gummee!

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    Its not always bicycles. :nono

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    Respect, huh?

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  4. Gummee!

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    Oh lookee! They allow motos in the bicycle area on the road. :augie

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    From the rough google translate, it's a special area reserved for motos and bicycles to give them more visibility at intersections.
    Looks like a great idea, similar to what I often do on either cycle when I'm first up at a light intersection. That is, pull up ahead of the "Stop Line" to get some extra room from the cars.
    (on the bicycle, of course, I'm over near the curb, unless there is a dedicated right turn lane).

    streets under the strategy for all transport secretary df Road and in coordination with the Secretary of works and services started repavimetacion work and placement of pavement markings in the carrel Caules contemplated the extreme nght with cyclist and priority waiting area bikes and motorcycles, demoninada "Moto Bike Box", whose aim is to provide full visibility to ensure the circulation so comfortable and safe for all road users.
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    Respect, huh?

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    That ass in the mini van needs to be bitch slapped into next week.
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    For as much as the driver of the van was an ass the cyclist displayed his I'm going to control the traffic behavior, 2 wrongs don't make it right. Talk about the Hasidic mafia, were did they all come from so quickly
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    Not so much really.
    Lane placement counts on bicycles like it does on motos, though different factors are at play.
    On that road, if one is smart you ride far enough from the parked cars to avoid getting doored. Since that lane is relatively narrow otherwise, it puts the cyclist pretty much in the middle of the lane.
    He moved over at the traffic light, he also moved in close to the parked cars at various times (other than the times the van was forcing him into the cars). It looked like he was also keeping a pretty brisk pace, probably at or pretty close to the legal speed limit, 25 - 30 mph seems likely for that road.
    Clearly the guy in the van had no problem getting around the cyclist when he wanted to. All he needed to do was keep going instead of provoking a confrontation.
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    I'm of a couple minds about that video now that someone's started talking about it.

    On one hand there's the 'WTF?! :asshat eff you I'M riding here get over it!' thought that went thru my head the first time that the minivan tried to pinch the dood off.

    Then there's the 'this guy in the minivan is obviously unstable, I'm gonna get the funk out of here thought. I probably would've jumped on the sidewalk first opportunity, ridden my ride, then got back on the road when said idiot was gone. Nothing's worth losing skin/life over. :nah

    HOWEVER that minivan would NOT have escaped with all its mirrors intact and probably a few nice scratches in the side *if* he came back at me after I'd tried to be the 'nice guy' first. :nono

    As I see it, the cyclist IS partially to blame in this one 'cause he keeps going after the dood in the minivan tries to assault him. Bascially its egging the dood in the minivan on. Not that I think the guy in the minivan is any kind of right in the altercation, but avoidance is better than confrontation.

    *I* certainly wouldn't have gone between the minivan and parked cars. There's a whole lotta lane(s) to the left...

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    A lot of the whiney bitches in this thread remind me of an old album title "Give me convince, or give me death".

    Except in this instance, it's "give me convenience, or I'll dole out death".

    You fucks make me sick. You'll put someone's life in danger because you have to lift your chubby little club foot off the gas for a few seconds, and inconvience your random day for a few seconds, or gasp.... A full minute or two.
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    Holy manischevits, what a whine, want some cheese with that
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    When you've seen people ran off the road and seriously hurt on purpose, it's more than a "whine". It's more like a full fledged axe to grind.
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    to borrow a line from Full Metal Jacket

    '...WHY AREN'T YOU STOMPING HIS GUTS OUT?...'
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    Just to remind the non-cyclists where MCs came from:
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    Note the pedals. :deal

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    Its not just me

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    There is no scenario where those who asshole cyclists are in the right. Not legally, morally, etc.

    If you can't say that you would act the same way to your son or daughter who were riding a bike, or would be an advocate of someone else doing the same to your son or daughter, then you're just being a hillbilly ass redneck. Plain and simple.
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    Pedals were banned for the Isle of Man TT motorcycle races from 1908?. They were though to give an unfair advantage. :clap
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    I believe that was due to a Harley protest.:rofl