Bicycles on the road

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by ThatOtherGuy, Oct 12, 2011.

  1. windmill

    windmill Long timer

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    Ironically I have been spending a lot of time lurking on cycling forums, and picked up "Lance Drugstrong" there, It seemed to be used as a euphemism implying a cyclist who pretends to be a competitive cyclist but isn't.

    I did not mean it to be directed at all roadies, but those cyclists who like some drivers and riders, take on a faux racing affectation, and act it out on the street. Obviously I misunderstood its meaning or usage and managed to put my foot in my mouth.

    I would like to apoligize to Gummie, Ridge, Homey, and any others who took it as a slight to dedicated sport cycling enthusiasts, that was not my intention.
  2. Homey

    Homey Been here awhile

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    I appreciate the apology. To be honest, that really didn't seem to be in character with something you'd normally say. I also wouldn't be surprised if you did see that on a cycling forum. You might be surprised to know that there prejudiced cyclists (just like the rest of us). Oh, yeah, it's true! The commuter thinks all roadie's are doped and the roadies think the mtn bikers are fakers..blah, blah blah. Reminds me of the old song that goes something like this:
    Ooooohhhhh, the Catholics hate the Protestants and the Protestants hate the Catholics, the Hindu's hate the Muslim's and everyone hates the jews...Yes, it's national brotherhood week... :freaky
  3. melville

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    Yes, MORON (not Moran, this one) was the correct diagnosis.

    If you were catching him on your old Airhead, he had no need to use a 'racing' line.
  4. Gummee!

    Gummee! That's MR. Toothless

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    Ummm kay. I'll bite. How hard is it exactly to catch someone on a bicycle when you have bigger tires, more suspension, and more power? :ear

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  5. windmill

    windmill Long timer

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    Well, turnabout's fair play........let me give you all the ammunition you need.

    I'm building a classic 3 speed "gentlemans roadster" based on a Chinese Flying Pigeon PA-02. Still waiting on the bike itself, a rear rim, led conversion kit for the lights, Brooks B33 saddle, and a few other odds and ends.

    Yes, those are cream colored delta cruiser tires from Schwalbe.......
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    To add a little more fuel to the fire, because of the typical conditions here in Seattle, I purchased a pair of L.L.Bean Maine hunting shoes for my "riding shoes". I'm sure I will be an object of mirth for many serious cyclists, but I'm used to it being a Ural rider and I'm secure in my manhood, so laugh away, its all good. :freaky
  6. Homey

    Homey Been here awhile

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    You won't get any grief from me. I'm a run what you brung kind of guy. Of course, I'm not a serious rider. I only ride 10,000miles or so a year. Sounds like a fun project. I like the yellow tire, nice touch.
  7. melville

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    I've caught MCs on both my old crit bike and my Vitus. The limits of a well ridden bicycle are not that different than an MC. I know YOU know this. Big Bamboo's MORON had no need of the 'racing' line if he was being caught by an old guy (BB) on a slow MC.
  8. Big Bamboo

    Big Bamboo Aircooled & Sunbaked

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    Not hard at all when they are doing 20mph in the middle of a road with a posted speed limit of 45mph... :deal
  9. windmill

    windmill Long timer

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    Damn,
    I got stuffed by a roadie right in front of my own house. :cry








    But I was riding my Ural, and slowing to go up the driveway............:deal








    And the farker didn't announce his pass........ :lol3
  10. StoneAgeMan

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    I've been riding a bicycle twice a week to work for a few years now (hour-long trip one way). I actually signal those sorts of lane positions (e.g. over a foot in a left turn) that I'm going to do. I'll drop my left arm almost straight down (since it was on the handlebars, of course), curve the wrist, and point over with my index finger. I'll waggle that 2-3 times while setting up for the move.

    This technique actually seems to work fairly well with most folks. I do this signal when they're about 2.4 seconds away from passing me, that's about the time I want them putting on the brake if I'm having to stay where I am.

    I don't do this "move left a bit" adjustment capriciously and it's sort of but not so much to "setup for the corner". On a long left curve, like one finds out there, the cars tend to be crossing the double yellow (see other thread for flaming that). So what happens to the outside of that left? It get's all nasty and rocky.

    Now I'm moving along at about 22mph (~33fps) up there. At 30+ feet a second, I'm not going to ride on gravel on the outside edge of a left turn! You guys have said "Just get some 'real' tires". Well I've got them, Schwabe (I think), big, gummy, thick, and relatively puncture resistant.

    But I'm *NOT* going to ride on gravel at that speed on the outside of a turn (sorry for the repeat). So yes, I'm over where others might not expect me. So yes, I signal (and have blinky lights on at all times!), and I've been known to move over before I "have to". I move over early to indicate to the folks behind what's happening, I'm not going to run up into something like that blind.

    I have actully practiced NOT looking back when it has become "too late" for me to really yield any more of the lane. I have a mirror and I use it. But some folks do seem to think that face contact from in front (by head rotation) "must" mean the initiator of that contact is yielding. All it really means is that they had an opportunity to observe at least your current position (but probably not your speed nor your intentions).

    StoneAge Man
  11. Gummee!

    Gummee! That's MR. Toothless

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    I give you the Hovenring
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    Only the Dutch...

    Basically, its an elevated traffic circle for bicycles. Get em out of the intersection. Presumably, its a busy intersection. :dunno

    Neat idea that probably won't ever fly here.
  12. Ridge

    Ridge Jitenshado

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    Put this over in the shiny things thread and you'll get much better traction with some helpful feedback and input. Good luck with the build!

    Awesome!
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    Looks very cool, as well as a very functional approach.
    Yeah, only if h*** freezes over would it fly here.

    Windmill, looks like a neat project, would like to see more of it…
  14. Warin

    Warin Retired

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    The hovenring would also take pedestrians too..

    Would need a cage around it though .. to stop idiots throwing rocks at the cars ..

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  15. WVhillbilly

    WVhillbilly Long timer

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    That is awesome :clap
  16. Oldun

    Oldun Older and slightly slower

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    ...and no doubt awesomely expensive.
  17. rbrsddn

    rbrsddn 3banger

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    I googled it, and watched a video, where pedestrians and even a couple of motorcycles were using it. Very cool, and a great solution.
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    Homey Been here awhile

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    It is a nice solution if not for the cost. That cannot be cheap enough to be something that becomes more than a novelty.
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    There are lots of places in this country where we have wasted more money on less useful infrastructure than this. :deal

    See also, http://www.wvcorridorh.com/ :cry
  20. Gummee!

    Gummee! That's MR. Toothless

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