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Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by ThatOtherGuy, Oct 12, 2011.
Damn hooligan bikers!
I thought people were meant to keep control of their animals?
and who says bicycles are slow?
this guy is tearing ass on a mountain bike
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Yeah, its a bad situation but if he had enough time to tell the owner(s) to curb their dog he also had enough time and should have slowed down. No different then coming up on a child. Expect the unexpected.
I can see both sides of this one. Dog owners are partially responsible because their dog ran in front of the dood. Rider is partially responsible because if you have time to yell, lots of times you have time to avoid.
That there's no sharing of blame in this case is the WTF?!
In MI, dogs have to be leashed. The dog's owner would have been breaking the law by letting it run.
First off, what is "the loop"? A bicycle path? MUP?
I re-read the article. I shouldn't have put all the blame on the cyclist in my previous post. The dog owners had control of the dog past the time the cyclist sounded off so they should have kept control until after the cyclist rode by. Yeah, he kind of got screwed by the judge.
Sounded like Central Park. FWI've heard/read there's an 'off-leash' area/time/something that allows dogs to run free.
That speaks volumes about your reasoning skills. Blaming legal road users rather than a motorist making an illegal pass in a blind bend tells me all I need to know about you. Just another entitled idiot who poses a threat to my safety.
Those are great word of wisdom for the entitled motorists.
Fuel taxes pay for some of the road and highway building but not all of it.
We could require all bicycles operating on the public roads to be licensed and pay a yearly fee just like every other vehicle. Riders should be required to have liability insurance and wear helmets at all times.
and atgatt man, atgatt...
Wow! Eric has serious issues with going fast down a mountain on a bicycle! Having the ft end break off at speed has to suck,hes out cold for at least half of his long tumble.
Should we do the same for walkers who use the streets? Justify your answer if you don't mind.
Don't forget to make pet owners carry insurance too!
That's just good common sense. The animal's owner is always responsible if it attacks someone.
WTF are you guys riding over that's causing all these flats? I live in central western VA and work from home a lot, so many days I take a 15 to 20 mile ride around the 'hood on an unlimited variety of back roads. Some are good asphalt, some are shit asphalt, some are gravel/dirt roads. I've put 3000 miles on a Surly cyclocross bike I bought recently and haven't had a single flat to date. Well, I take that back - right after I got the bike I rode ~50 miles on the BRP one afternoon (James River to Hwy 60 overpass near Buena Vista and back) and got a flat about 100 yeards from the car on the return. Turned out the tech who built the bike forgot to put a rim strap in and the spoke nipples ate a hole in the tube . Anyway, over 3000 miles on my 100 psi cyclocross slicks without a single road hazard flat, I must be living right somehow!
I guess I'm lucky to live out here in the Stix. This is the road into town:
We don't have a whole lot of traffic, but we do have our share of idiots in cars that don't seem to understand what those double yellow lines are the roads are for. I can't count how many times I've been surprised by someone coming around a blind corner or over a blind hill completely in the on-coming lane. The biggest issue, though, is people overtaking not giving enough separation distance, whiffing past by a foot, even if there's no one coming the other way. Funny, they have no issue crossing the double yellow unless it's to pass a bicyclist. I've ridden with bicyclists, too, by the way; some of these guys are true assholes in the way they disregard and sometimes actively block or obstruct the vehicular traffic "just to make the point" and even as a fellow cyclist I have an issue with that. No one wins in that scenario, nothing but hard feelings comes from being an asshole on either side of the argument.
Why can't we all just be accepting, respectful, and share like we learned in kindergarten??? There is plenty of room for all of us out there. I guess maybe I live in a happy little World (with lots of GREAT cycling roads) that doesn't always properly reflect reality .
BTW, Jim VB, I like your house, too bad it isn't on a quieter street! We're making plans to build a new house on our land and I really like that classic look. Gonna have a wrap-around porch and tons of windows.
Did you read Gummee's link a page back?
@manfromthestix: gravel roads + loose rocks + speed* + bad luck = flats.
My flat was a puncture. My buddy's flats have been pinch flats. IOW he keeps hitting rocks 'just wrong' and pinching his 34c clinchers.
We've got plenty of hills out here so I'm routinely hitting between 35 and 40 on the downhills on ratty asphalt (tone it down for gravel ya know) on the slicks and still never had a flat. I have gotten some stone cuts in the tires and it's time for new ones, but no flats. I must have gotten some extra special tubes or somthing .