Bicycles on the road

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by ThatOtherGuy, Oct 12, 2011.

  1. Warin

    Warin Retired

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    I have insurance for me & the bicycle. Cost is about $100 per year. However the cost of "licensed and pay a yearly fee" is far exceeded by the cost of collection. :1drink

    In an ideal ttpete world every newborn would be stamped with an id front back and sides so you can tell who they are - walking, standing, riding or driving. Across your forhead would be a good start. And every year you 'd pay for roads, footpaths, national parks, forests, playgrounds etc (I think that is called taxes.. but I could be wrong) . You first ttpete. For the stamping. :evil
  2. ttpete

    ttpete Rectum Non Bustibus

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    I pay to use the roads, why should you use them for free? I think $25/year per bicycle is fair. :deal
  3. Gummee!

    Gummee! That's MR. Toothless

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    Better knock on some wood!

    Hey, if you're in NoVA this weekend, a buddy of mine and I are doing a mixed surface century Sun AM.

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  4. Gummee!

    Gummee! That's MR. Toothless

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    We'll go down this road again...

    So... exactly how much wear and tear does a bicycle + rider put on the roads? :ear

    Next stupid question: where exactly is it this $25 is going? How much to cover the govt agency needed to design/issue/monitor the whatever you get when you pay your $25? How much is actually left over to do anything? :ear *IF* I thought paying a fee for my bicycle would actually do something, I'd be for it. Otherwise? :nah

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  5. braindigitalis

    braindigitalis Wet weather sucks!

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    Ok, having just found this thread I feel the need to vent about some cyclists here in the UK well.... If that's what you should call them...I am referring to teenagers on bicycles who think the correct way to ride a bike is at 5mph, on ONE WHEEL in the centre of your lane or even worse in the ONCOMING lane.Yes WHEELIES . These idiots have encountered me twice and each time I have sounded my horn. The highway code says you should use your horn only to draw attention and make other road users aware of my presence. If anyone sees it, then sure that was my intent ;-) its not my fault that these dick -for-brains idiots usually almost lose their balance and almost fall off. Would be funny if one of them did because these idiots are NOT fellow road users in my opinion and deserve exactly the same courtesy they give us... None.

    Of course the majority of cyclists are sensible and safe and should not be tarred with my brush. My opinion is reserved only for these dickish pricks who think they are "road superman". Well, that's My 0.02c well spent. :-)
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    Wow. You just jinxed yourself! Now you'll have five flats in the next two days.:lol3
  7. Ginger Beard

    Ginger Beard I have no soul

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    I pay to use the roads as well with all the BS taxes that are levied against all 7 of my fuel powered vehicles. I will not license my bike to use the roads any sooner than I will license my shoes to walk down a sidewalk. :deal
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    Ginger Beard I have no soul

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    Your posts are so fucking ironic that I may burst if you continue posting!!! :rofl
  9. Ginger Beard

    Ginger Beard I have no soul

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    He's the "I love Big Brother" type. Me? I like a small government with very little intrusion. Take your insured and registered bicycle bit and stick it. :nod

    Tell you what...I would concede if they built a nationwide bicycle specific highway/byway system and put bike specific roads in all metro areas. Deal? :deal
  10. Gummee!

    Gummee! That's MR. Toothless

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    On one hand, that sounds fantastic. On the other, we're road users and shouldn't be treated 'separate but equal.' :nono

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  11. Ginger Beard

    Ginger Beard I have no soul

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    What is the preferred method for doing a wheelie while in traffic? :ear :D
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    Ginger Beard I have no soul

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    True but it sure would be fun to have a bicycle overpass over every intersection wouldn't it? Sure would cut down on having to run lights. :deal
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    Another hill to pant over? Ummm ... rather wait for the lights. Makes time for a drink.
    Some places it would be better to have an underpass ... would save climbing up to the lights and descending one the other side. Ideally it could take all the through traffic away from that intersection at the same time (share and share alike).
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    ttpete Rectum Non Bustibus

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    Sutherngintelmen around the bend

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    Let me guess - you are an elected official? :ear
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    braindigitalis Wet weather sucks!

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    In my opinion bicycle riders should be treated stricter. I have never seen a cop fining a cyclist here for having no lights, performing stunts, riding on the wrong side of the road, and other silly stuff. Part of this is because bicycles are not registered so the cyclist knows there can be no real record of their abuse of the roads. In my opinion cyclists should be forced to register (for free or for a small administrative charge) and to prove they are proficient by passing the equivalent of a CBT /MSF course... Maybe then people would be more responsible. Is this the same in the US as it is here in the UK with cops being too lenient towards cyclists?
  17. Gummee!

    Gummee! That's MR. Toothless

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    Did you not read the article that I linked to above?

    :norton

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  18. braindigitalis

    braindigitalis Wet weather sucks!

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    I still stand by what I said... In my opinion all road users no matter what they drive or ride on should demonstrate they know how to stay safe. To say that it is being oppressive to ensure safety is like saying it is an insult on your personal freedoms to be forced to wear a seatbelt or helmet - both are simply common sense...

    Speaking from personal experience every day I encounter cyclists flouting the law not having lights, not riding in the right lane and almost exclusively these "scofflaws" as your report calls them are teenage kids... Not "spandex wearing" adults. The offenders need to be properly educated in road safety. Do you let your kids go across roads without teaching them to stop, look and listen? Why would anyone advocate taking a bike to the roads with not even instruction to look where you want to go, or use hand signals???

    There is the crux of my uk-centric rant...
  19. Ginger Beard

    Ginger Beard I have no soul

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    It is. The key word being "forced". :nod


    If I want to be safe then it should be my choice just as not being safe should also be my choice. The gray area being if my lack of safety endangers the safety of someone else.


    By the way, cyclists here in South FL will get tickets for light running , not having lights at night, etc just as they should. Never heard of anyone getting a ticket for wheelies thankfully or I would have a stack of them. :lol3
  20. Gummee!

    Gummee! That's MR. Toothless

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    I do believe that your teenage scofflaws already know the rules. They just don't give a shite whether they break them or not. :nod

    Further education on 'the rules of the road' would do what exactly with these kids? :ear

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