Big Bear + Big Bike in Snow? A Beach Flatlander Asks

Discussion in 'West – California, the desert southwest and whatev' started by schwuller, Jan 18, 2017.

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Adventure Bike to Big Bear / Tahoe Snowy Roads Easy or Serious

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  1. schwuller

    schwuller lnd rovers + airhead

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    You snow guys be prepared to laugh at this question.

    Instead of driving the car up id like to take the GS or the DR up to big bear via the 38.

    Never done this in winter snow conditions. School me.

    Conditions are expected to be 20s and 30s with snow falling.

    So when do you snow guys leave the bikes at home? What are the signs that tell you "nope"? Would you ride to big bear this weekend and/or next week without a concern.
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  2. ianmp

    ianmp *****

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    I follow your train of thought. The kneejerk response is "it's snowy and slippery and even if I don't fall it will not be pleasant," but intellect kicks in and you think "Now wait a minute-- why would I think that? There are parts of the country that have snow half the year and people ride bikes there! I'm an adventurous person, I should see what riding in a light snow is about because it could be a unique experience at least, and probably beautiful, and possibly something I'd really enjoy. Besides, I'm a decent rider, and I find that people nanny about stuff constantly but I do it anyway and 9 times out of 10 I'm glad I did. If I never try anything new I won't know what I'm capable of, I won't know what life can really be, and I'll be stuck in the same tiny ecosystem of experiences as people who worry about things like motorcycle riding in a light snow."

    I could be projecting though, since I tried it a few weeks ago. I was actually surprised-- not surprised that it sucked, but surprised at how much worse it sucked than the worst scenario I had imagined. YMMV
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  3. blt4bja

    blt4bja Been here awhile

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    Riding in snow is not that bad, where it gets real fun is ice. I'd leave the bike home or at least plan on turning back when you've reached your limits.
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  4. Little Bike

    Little Bike Air/Clutz Sue

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    ^^^^

    Don't forget what a traffic mess the mountain roads here become on snow days because everybody wants to go up, but maybe it wouldn't be too bad on a weekday.
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  5. Chico

    Chico Thief and Saboteur

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    In my opinion, not worth it. At all.
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  6. Todd157k

    Todd157k Long timer

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    Hahahaha... been there, tried that. Ah, no, you don't stay upright for very long. Either the snow is fluffy, and you go nowhere.. or slushy in which case, you go nowhere (but on your arse) or it's icy.. where all you go is on your arse.
    I grew up in northern CA and rode snowy areas.
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  7. desertdaves

    desertdaves DesertDave

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    I'm here right now, and the roads are clear. But new storm rolling in tomorrow any through the weekend. When the roads are clear it's not that bad, but during or after a storm coming you do not want to be on that road. As one of the other inmates stated the traffic is backed up, and it is just not fun having to sit in traffic with all the slush. Wait a couple more months, and go up in the late winter early spring. Mho
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  8. mrchristian

    mrchristian Been here awhile

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    Not worth it - cars do dumb things and lose control in California snow conditions - especially in steep mountain areas. Good way to get into deep, deep trouble real fast. All to ride slow and freeze.
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  9. DSchmidt7of7

    DSchmidt7of7 Been here awhile

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    Something to consider... How about taking the "back way" up SR-18 from the desert side. Depending on where you're heading to there will likely be a LOT less traffic that way and you wont be spending as much time driving in the snow. Avoid early morning and watch for shadows to avoid ice on the road.:vardy

    ...and keep asking yourself "How fast do I want to crash today?" and bring extra "chonies"... :knary

    We'll also need photos or it didn't happen.

    Be safe.
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  10. OrangeYZ

    OrangeYZ Long timer

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    When a car loses traction, it's not a crash until they run into something.
    When you lose traction, it's a crash immediately. Then somebody runs you over and it's a crash for them too.
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  11. schwuller

    schwuller lnd rovers + airhead

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    I am ...SHOCKED at the responses . Ive driven cars in winter to big bear so so many times. Lived in Winnipeg (never rode there in winter). So I really expected answers more along the lines of "does baby need his lollly too?"

    Glad i asked!

    Ill take my 4 wheeled motorcycle instead: NB Miata, top down wirh a beanie, sheepskin seatcovers, tire chains in trunk, nice weekday drive at 10am up and 1pm down next day :) That car loves this drive.

    Much appreciated.
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  12. craigincali

    craigincali Just hanging around

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    snow packs in all your tread and you are left with an icy slick. It sucks.
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  13. JakeP

    JakeP F800GS & 2-Stroke Lover

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    I was up last weekend and hit a couple of patches of ice in Bluejay at a walking pace. Tires started to slide, I put out both of my feet, locked up my front wheel, and prayed that I would stay upright.

    Riding a fireroad with fresh snow might be fun, but ice on a road SUCKS.

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  14. outlaws justice

    outlaws justice On the Fringe

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    Three of us rode from Apple Valley back before Christmas, but we took the back way (Dirt roads through the mountains) ran into snow at about 6,000 ft. it was all hard packed and Ice as the trucks and jeeps had packed it all down. (I was on my KTM950) we continued on with only one fall on the way. Finally got to the paved roads and then road the last five miles into big bear where we stopped and had lunch. Then turned and came back again down the back dirt roads into Apple valley.
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  15. mrchristian

    mrchristian Been here awhile

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    Those types of people have never gone down hard on ice on a shady corner or had a tanker truck trying to make a delivery fishtail out in front of them.
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  16. CA Stu

    CA Stu You could do worse Super Moderator

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    I would never, ever, ever ride in snow. Ever.

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    I say go for it. It'll be fun and you will be a legend. :thumb

    Edit: I did turn around right here:
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    I was by myself and hadn't seen another vehicle for a while.Trail of 100 Giants, north of Kernville. I was on my way to Visalia for lunch...

    On the roads you mention, there's enough maintenance and traffic that you will probably get wet and cold, but that's about it, I reckon.

    Go for it!
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  17. jonz

    jonz Miles are my mantra

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  18. breakdirt916

    breakdirt916 CA PLATED 94 YZ250 2-STROKE

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    not worth it imho with traffic around you

    I like riding in snow...but only for fun without other cars around you...not for the commute/slab
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  19. trc.rhubarb

    trc.rhubarb ZoomSplat!

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    a couple of years ago, I stupidly headed north in March and forgot all about the snow. I ended up on a highway pass in the start of a blizzard. I could see nothing and knew I was going to die but kept going on anyhow because I was afraid to stop and get run over by someone that couldn't see me (kind of like the rain in Florida). As I began the downhill, there were flashing lights on the side of the road that said accident ahead and a single car which I thought was odd. Then another, another, etc... cars everywhere both sides of the hwy, firetrucks and ambulances everywhere. Cars had gone flying everywhere over about a mile stretch. That's the worst snow I've been in and other than leaving SLC the next day and dealing with snow until I got down the hill from Lake Tahoe, I've tried to avoid it since.

    The snow was easy, the frozen water under it was bad news. I still have no idea how I made it through.

    If you want to ride snow, go find somewhere safe to dump it... nice fluffy stuff with no cars to run you over and no cliffs to fall off of.
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  20. Buster714

    Buster714 I'll ride anything

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    Depends what your idea of fun is. I never know what I'm doing until I've done it. Be safe, or at least prepared.

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