big offroad mutha comparison...

Discussion in 'Australia' started by troy safari carpente, May 16, 2018.

  1. troy safari carpente

    troy safari carpente #501 Team f5oolery

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    You know what I'd really like to orchestrate...?

    When all the pre-release cloak and daggery is over, and the showroom standard versions of these five bikes below are all finally available to market (yes, sticks in the mud - I know a couple are still projects in the making)... then to have them put up in a fair comparison (with no vested interest parties, no sponsored riders or guest magazine advertising dollar dependent editors - to test ride them) in order to get a no punches pulled assesment of all five of them, in real world situations, on a variety of terrain and weather conditions - over say - a week (let's say nine days - tag two weekends together).

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    THAT is what I'd really like to see happen...
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  2. Richarde1605

    Richarde1605 Been here awhile

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  3. dirty dennis

    dirty dennis are we there yet

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    Just to be a contrary old bastard throw in a 990/950 as a yardstick to see what 15 years of development has given us
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  4. Wodger63

    Wodger63 Long timer

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    They would so need to be shod with the same rubber.
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  5. Lomax

    Lomax Nanu-Nanu Adventurer

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    I think you forgot one very important one. :lol3 Of course I guess I don't know what you mean by Big and Offroad Twin.

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  6. stujamur

    stujamur keep rollin rollin rollin

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    In the group of bikes i ride with regularly there is a
    950se/990adv/1190r/1090r/africatwin/tigerxcx/gs800.

    Ridden all and this is just my opinion from my brief time on all but the 950se is miles apart from all the others in terms of off road ability. Followed by the 1090r. If the gs had better suspension it would be up there .

    At 176cm 70kg they are all too heavy for me to enjoy in the rough stuff and i really hope one of the newer bikes is a bit closer to the legendary 950se but not as tall
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  7. troy safari carpente

    troy safari carpente #501 Team f5oolery

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    :photog seriously...? :brow :wink:

    Oh, what the hell... toss the Dago-cati in the mix along for the ride as well... :thumb:lol3 (they still haven't forgiven me for the Cagiva W16 write up though). :augie

    any others that should get a jersey...? :ear

    and no Dennis... we can't have a 950/990 along as a yardstick... we don't want all the new toys to get the shits and take their bats and balls and go home - mid ride... do we...? :hide
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  8. lurkin

    lurkin Been here awhile

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    ,,,,, sooo, no HP2 either I suppose:(, it’s bloody rigged :hmmmmm
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  9. fayeslane

    fayeslane Rankest of amateurs

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    An owners (unbiased if possible :evil) report after 2ish years of ownership would be of interest to me. New bike reports don't give any indication of things that work/ don't work, running costs and reliability.
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  10. darren70

    darren70 I don't own a KTM

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    Would two wr450's on a trailer count?
    it would still weigh less than most of these..
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  12. darren70

    darren70 I don't own a KTM

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  13. ferals5

    ferals5 Team black bikes

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  14. Cruz

    Cruz Lost but laughing.

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    You look at all those photos of bikes that Troy posted, and one of them looks more like a semi road bike than the others!

    The Desert Sled doesn't have a 21 inch front wheel either, so out it goes.
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  15. bigborett

    bigborett Long timer

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    I think the 1090r should be there as well .
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  16. wairau

    wairau get in behind!

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    i assumed troy had left it out because in his mind its already won. this is about the runner-up spots isnt it?
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    Should be a top price limit to, with enough money you can make anything a weapon but who can afford it? Say $25000 0r even $20000
    Then it would be a fair comparison.
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  18. bigborett

    bigborett Long timer

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    Ok. You organise it Troy, I'm sure there will be enough adv test riders :-)
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  19. BygDaddee

    BygDaddee Where do I get a pie

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  20. Fearless Whetu

    Fearless Whetu Aussi Kiwi

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    I think you would get a much better idea by just, you know, riding them yourself.

    But I suppose it's not common to be able to ride them offroad on a test ride. Still, you'd get a feel for each bike.

    To me the F800GS with the same styling, better suspension (actual suspension that worked and was adjustable) with more power and cruise control (NOT the new Indian abomination) would have been perfect.

    I think what those photos show is how fugly the new KTM looks. I just don't get it.
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