Big,used, Sport Tourer

Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by McJamie, Jul 3, 2013.

  1. squirrelnator

    squirrelnator Mystical Adventurer

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    I think that if you are a little patient, you can pick up an ST1100 that meets your criteria of lower mileage and your price point. We see them come along every once in a while locally here in Texas. Great for touring, not particularly sporty, reliable as an anvil. :D
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  2. roadstar

    roadstar Been here awhile

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    early R1100RT`s & K1100LT`s can go for 4k for the RT & less 3K for the LT`s. They both handle very well & you can get tons of miles out of each of them. But if your looking at the Honda`s the ST1100 is the way to go (try & find a later one with bigger alternator). Also don`t knock the early Busa`s , they can be comfy & loves miles. :D
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  3. McJamie

    McJamie STROMINATOR

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    I'm not a BMW guy. I've ridden the 1100/1150rt's, and while I find them completely functional in the role they are meant for, I found them a little buzzy, and I find the little BMW quirks( 3 buttons to work turn signals, and the grips being tapered towards the inside, expensive parts & service) annoying enough to keep me away from it. If I had the budget, I could forgive the quirks, and step up to a 1200RT, although horror stories about failed rear ends, would probably still keep me away.

    I won't rule out the ST, but it's not the one that stirs my heart.
    I know the Hyabusa works well, but they always looked like a dog humping a football to me.
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  4. McJamie

    McJamie STROMINATOR

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    Thanks, I will look there tonight.
    And everyone I've spoken to, and anything I've read, confirm that it may be one of the best carburated bikes ever produced.
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  5. roadstar

    roadstar Been here awhile

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    I have ridden the R1100 & yes it was buzzy but in a wierd way , the 1150 was better & great weather protection on both. As for the R1200RT , i think i`m in love with mine. Great twin cam engine , yes a little buzzy at 85mph & up ( kind of a throb not a buzz) but hit the cruise control & enjoy the ride. As for there quirky controls , i like the older design (thumb swithch on both controls) my K1100LT has that & i like it much better than the jap ripoff they installed on the 2010`s & later. I have friends that own BMW`s & out of them all the K1200LT diff went bad at 157,000mi`s (don`t believe everything you read on the internet). :lol3 guess it`s luck of the draw. :eek1 I came off an 07 FJR & think that had more vibes than my RT. (but way faster) :evil

    Remember BMW has the best tasting cool aid :1drink:freaky
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  6. Bbasso

    Bbasso my name is Rob

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    A few days ago I got back from a 1800 mile trip on my new to me 2002 Blackbird.

    I'm loving it.
    If you have questions, I'll try to answer.
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  7. Yostwerks

    Yostwerks Been here awhile

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    Great looking Blackbird .. Corbin Panniers ?

    I've owned several of the bikes being discussed here, and of the larger sport TOURERS, the 1991 ST1100 was my favorite. I owned mine for nearly 18 years and 80,000 miles. It was smooth and comfortable, and better handling than one would expect

    I also owned a 1997 Concours C10 and found it a reliable and good handling bike. It was more nimble in the corners than the Honda. Heat was the only issue I had with the bike.

    My 2005 FJR 1300 was good looking, and well built, but I didn't like it's handling or the way it wore out front tires faster than rear's ? Heat was a minor issue also. Overall, my least favorite.

    Of the SPORT touring bikes, the 1989 FJ1200 was a great looking design with far less comfort than the three above, but a powerful and fun bike.

    My 2008 Triumph Sprint is a great all-rounder with quick handling and a comfortable ride. Highly recommended.

    My 2002 Aprilia Falco with panniers and heli-bars is another bike that surprises with it's great handling and ride. Plus, nothing sounds better than a Rotax V-Twin ... to me anyway !

    The 2012 Kawasaki ZX14R is a powerful beast , but a comfortable one also. Handling is good. Properly set-up with panniers, top box, heli-bar risers, and lower pegs, it's got all day comfort along with it's monster 200hp motor !

    There are many other bikes out there that make excellent sport tourers, but I've not had the pleasure of owning them. The Aprilia Futura, VFR 750 / 800, Blackbird, MG Norge , and Daytona 955 among others ... come to mind. These are the ones I've ridden.

    Tom

    Falco and Sprint .... Minus their panniers . Good used versions of each can be had at low prices.

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    ZX14R ... Super-Sport touring. Older ZX14's are plentifiul, and at reasonable prices.
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  8. Blakebird

    Blakebird r-u-n-n-o-f-t

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    I put a ton of miles on my '99 PGM FI Blackbird, one of several SS1K's on it, and generally toured all over the western US on it. Great bike.

    But I had a ZX-14 a few bikes ago that I put 27,000 miles on in 18 months, and it was like the XX times 1.5.... smoother, much faster, build quality that is right there with the XX. That was an excellent bike, period.

    I like the idea of the ST1100 for your budget though. I had an ST1300 that was a great mile eater, but it's not as cheap under the hood at maintenance time as the ST1100. I recently was looking at picking up an ST1100, there are good buys out there....but I found a deal on a new, leftover VFR1200F that turned out to be one of the best distance and sporttouring bikes I've owned. It's a fantastic bike, but not in your budget....so I won't mention it :D

    You might find an FJR in your budget as well.....I put 34,000 miles on my '07 in 20 months and it still ranks in my top three bikes ever. GREAT bike despite being nothing special on paper compared to it's competition.
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  9. Bbasso

    Bbasso my name is Rob

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    Yes,

    They are actually called Corbin Bettle Bags and Smuggler seat.
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  10. Unleaded

    Unleaded Unit Train

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    :lol3 I won't mention it either, except to say I've had the same experience. Just did a SS1k on Monday, from Illinois to Silverthorne, CO. On the return trip I rode up to RMNP, Cheyenne, WY, and back across I-80/I-29S/I-70 back to Illinois yesterday afternoon.

    Even over 2300 miles of tedious slab in three days, the bike was wonderful.
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  11. HapHazard

    HapHazard Waiting for Gudenov

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    I have had an 89 FJ1200 for 20(!) years now, have taken long-ish(to me) rides with it but never toured. Mostly commuting and around town. I like it a lot - it has great torque for a four, but can really move as well. Mine has a SuperTrapp 4-1, which drops some weight, but it's really not that heavy (about 530lbs), and carries it's weight low. Adjustable suspension, handles well and is comfortable. It will never need a replacement water pump or coolant change.:D

    The famous problem is second gear popping out - watch for it when accelerating. There are very few tires that fit it. Stock are bias - Michelin did make radials that worked well, but dropped them - I'm using Avon Storm bias now, and they're good. They're getting old, but parts are still available. I've seen bikes with mileage in the low 20k area for about $2000.

    You could pay more and do worse.:dunno
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  12. richarddacat

    richarddacat Rollin' and Tumblin'

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    I would like to have an ZZR or ZX14 to compliment my FJR and think that would be a good choice BUT...... there are a lot of deals out there on used rockets like the shaft-driven-factory-bags-iron-butt-favorite FJR :D

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  13. firecrotch

    firecrotch Been here awhile

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    Got the fj1200 and rode friends concourse this last weekend. The concourse had slightly nicer egos and nicer brakes.(all of which i am currently upgrading on my fj). Power felt smoother on coucourse but no major difference I coukd tell.

    Other than that not much difference other than the concourse feels like a pig at slow speeds or in a parking lot. I actually looked forward to getting my fj back which really surprised me. I thought a two year old 10k + bike would be way way nicer than it was.
    The fj is a no brainer. Theres one on fjowners that has 500k miles on it and still going. They are indestructable and just go and go and go. Best of all. You should be able pick up a nice one for under 2k:clap
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  14. VFR

    VFR Been here awhile

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    I have an '89 FJ1200 but have never toured on it. I have toured on my '00 Blackbird but found it to be overkill for the job. Very smooth, mucho power & if you feel the need to disappear, it will do that in a big hurry. I now tour on my '98 VFR, which does it very well. So well, in fact, that both of the others just sit....

    I bought an '07 Tiger 1050, set it up for touring, did a couple of trips on it, & while it worked perfectly, it just wasn't the one for me. That one will hit the FM soon.

    Several of the guys I ride with have STs, both 1100 & 1300. They love them & some have over 200K on them--one 1300 will hit 300K very shortly. Just came back from a short run to South Dakota with a friend on an ST1100. Excellent choice for the job.
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  15. McJamie

    McJamie STROMINATOR

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    I just stumbled across a 900 Trophy with about 30,000 kms, he wants $3000 for it. Except he's 3 hours away.
    So that's become another option.
    The FJ1200 is def the bargain of the lot, but it's tougher to find one with bags already on it. A Trophy would solve that.
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  16. Badjuju

    Badjuju Biker Billy

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  17. dirtdreamer50

    dirtdreamer50 long time rider

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    Had both the ZZR1200 and Sprint 1050ST. Not much is similar about them. The ST was more fun riding around the speed limits, but the heat that came from the engine compartment and underseat exhaust was unbearable with in town riding and highway riding in summer months.

    The ZZR was a love-hate situation for me. At highway speed limits, the bike was boring and felt unexceptional. It became a completely different machine when the throttle was opened. It really was the happiest at speeds of 125MPH and above, (it was designed for Autobahn use) but I wasn't happy up there on two lane back roads.

    You said you weren't a fan of RT's and I understand that, but a R1200RT is what I am currently using for highway riding, and I do enjoy the more relaxed ergos over the ST or the ZZR, and it still goes plenty fast for extended periods of time. tomp dd50
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  18. pit0rz

    pit0rz Off on a bimble...

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    '89 FJ1200 Tour ready! 3 piece Givi setup makes it a very very capable sport touring machine. I rode this one non stop from KC to Upstate NY. Big, Tourquey solid bike can eat the miles. :evil
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  19. barko1

    barko1 barko1

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    I rode mine 1526 miles in 23 hours, only once :lol3
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  20. pit0rz

    pit0rz Off on a bimble...

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    Ya, once for me too :norton 1250 miles in 21 hours. I peeled myself off that bike.

    It was actually a pretty nice ride except for the last 5 hours were in the driving rain. Ahh to be young and stoopid again. :rofl
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