Bike trade in the works: question on reg.

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by AlanCT, Oct 1, 2013.

  1. AlanCT

    AlanCT The Byronic Man

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    The current plan is that the other inmate and I are each going to keep our own plates. I can transfer it to the new bike when I get home. However, I am not going to mount my old plate on the new bike for the ride back; I will just have to rely on whatever documents I get from the title transfer office in PA if I get stopped.


    If I did mount it on my bike, it would come back to my name and insurance as Kawasaki ZG1000" instead of "Kawasaki W650". Unless the LEO is a rider, would he be likely to sort out that alphabet soup at a casual glance? I won't risk a false plate though...
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  2. SilkMoneyLove

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    before the deal, I would send videos of it running and and walk around and if you can swing it, a quick vid of you riding it to the other inmate.

    I have had people show up and not like the sound of a bike (Ducati) and all kinds of wierd stuff. Videos put all that to rest before you make the 10 hour drive.

    As for the registration. Even though you are buying the bike, each bike is still technically registered, so it is not an unregistered bike.
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  3. AlanCT

    AlanCT The Byronic Man

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    Not a bad idea.
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    tvpierce Been here awhile

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    Obviously different from state to state, so you'd have to check it out in CT & PA... but in Maine, I can go the the DMV or my town hall, and get a temporary transport tag. It cost $12 I think, and is good for 1-2 days. It's designed for exactly this purpose: to go purchase a vehicle and be able to drive it home. All I need is the VIN from the new bike and proof of insurance -- which I can get emailed or faxed to me within minutes from my insurance agent.

    The less involved way (as long as you trust each other) would be to just keep the current tags, registration paperwork, and insurance cards with the bikes and mail them when you each get home. If you were to be pulled over, you are merely riding a borrowed bike -- no legal problem with that. No one knows except you two owners that the transaction has taken place: not the cops, not the DMV, no one. (EDIT: even if I did this option, I would still get the bike insured by me before the transaction.)
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  5. KX50002

    KX50002 NooB, my ass

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    I just thought of this, just tag both bikes in VT.
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    In PA the tag stays with the person, not the vehicle. If you meet the PA guy at a public notary he can have you sign over the title (signature must be notarized in PA), sign all the other documents he needs, then legally ride away on the same tag he arrived on. His insurance card doesn't even have to state the exact vehicle he's purchasing- at least it didn't last time I bought a vehicle in PA.

    I have no idea how things work on the CT side.
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  7. Vankaye

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    No offense to either of you guys doing the trade but I would never put much faith in a total stranger. Hell, even with friends and family my intention is to ALWAYS be self-sufficient.

    I would bring my bike in a pickup truck and leave with my new bike in the truck.

    Done it many times. There is no better way. Besides, I would not wants to ride a bike that I haven't personally maintained or given a thorough inspection (with tools not just eyeballs).

    My $.02
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  8. AlanCT

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    Yeah, it's a leap of faith for sure. I have no truck and it is not too far, so I'm rolling the dice a bit. So's the other guy, for that matter.
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    Okay, since this deal was going pretty smoothly, there had to be a hitch.

    I just noticed that the title for my bike is in my wife's name (she originally got it for me as a gift, bless her). There is no time to get a new title issued, as that takes quite a few weeks.

    In order for me to sign my bike title over to the new owner, it seems like I need power of attorney to act as her agent. This is done via a notarized form. It is unclear to me if I get that here in my home state of CT, or if I have to get a PA (where the deal is happening) form. I think I need it done in my home state, since that is where the person on the title, for whom I'd be getting power of attorney, resides.

    This is new territory for me. Any advice? I'll be making calls to the DMV tomorrow, but I thought I'd see what the ADVers have to say.
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  10. Gonzoso

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    Where in PA are you going to meet? If I were you I would bring the wife with you for the trade in a car with a trailer or in a truck.

    Without the person who's name is on the title you're gonna have problems.

    Also get a temp tag in PA. It's a piece of paper that probably costs 25$ that will save you hundred in fines and towing if you get pulled over. If you get pulled over, and you will riding a bike with no tags, they're going to tow you.
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  11. AlanCT

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    I'll definitely be getting a temp tag, if PA will issue me one.

    I have no truck or trailer.

    I would rather not inconvenience my wife (and young daughter) by making her drive all the way out there and back if I can avoid it. I'm calling that Plan B...
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    Make a date of it. Your odds of some beaurocratic fuck up even with the power of attorney are pretty high. The simplest solution is bring the wife.

    Where in PA are you going? There's stuff to do all over here if you know where to go. You have to spin it a little like "We're taking a nice trip to ....falls or whatever and we happen to be switching motorcycles and babe you might have to sign your name three times and then we'll stop by this amazing restaurant, unload the kid on a babysitter" Hell the legal fees you'll save from the notary will pay for a hotel and some private time.
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    Wilkes-Barre is where this is happening. I'm calling an auto tag service there tomorrow to see what they need. If they recommend a fix for this, it should help to deal with the same person when I get there. If there is no simple fix, I'll have to rent a truck and talk my wife into a trip...
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    Around Wilkes Barre you have some nice hiking at Ricketts Glenn State Park, there are a lot of places to eat around there as well. Ricketts Glen is beautiful and has a 7 mile loop trail which is easy to moderate and is coveted by photographers who come to take pictures of the many beautiful water falls.

    i 'm assuming you'll come via 84 so you'll be passing through Milford which is at the top of the beautiful Delaware Water Gap.

    Just bring the wife and don't make it a chore!
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    Use the other guy's plate and date the trade for the next business day after you get home. Until then, you're just swapping bikes and there's nothing wrong with that.
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  16. AlanCT

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    I called the PA title transfer office that we intend to use. They say that they'll give me a temp. tag, and that if my wife signs the title at home before I bring it to them, that is fine because CT doesn't require titles to be notarized.

    Well, that seems easy. Much ado about nothing!

    Now, to slap a new front tire on the Concours...
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  17. SilkMoneyLove

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    Cool. Glad it will work out.
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    Success!

    :clap :ricky
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