Bikes with flaws you hate

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by southwade, Jan 17, 2012.

  1. DAKEZ

    DAKEZ Long timer

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    You forgot the useless mirrors and the wooden seat. :lol3
  2. VxZeroKnots

    VxZeroKnots Long timer

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    +1 Eveyone complains about the seats on offroad bikes. They should spend some time on an aluminum hardtail MTB.

    It's all about perspective.

    :norton
  3. SiouxsieCat

    SiouxsieCat Been here awhile

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    I owned an SV650. I couldn't agree more.
  4. Electrojake

    Electrojake Career Neophyte

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  5. lethe

    lethe Long timer

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    actually the initial switch to plastic was part way into '05, those look the same as the prior metal tanks
    the "worse" looking ones are these newer ones with the add on panel things

    and yes my '05 is plastic and yes I hate that it's expanding and now needs replacement :cry
  6. 2tallnwide

    2tallnwide Long timer

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    The worst thing about my Tiger is I'm 6,000 miles away from it working...:deal

    I will admit the fuel gauge is about useless tho...at least it has a trip meter, just wish my old eyes could see the little tiny sumbeach...:lol3
  7. MedicineBow

    MedicineBow Adventurer

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    My '07 Tiger had that same fuel gauge problem when i got it, but turned out to be easily & cheaply fixed by updating to the latest tune with the (free) TuneECU software.

    What really bugs me about the 1050 is the lack of auto-cancelling turn signals, on a $10k+ bike with more computer power than Apollo. My Vulcan has an excellent "10 seconds or 300 feet, whichever comes last" cancel logic that has me well trained, so every ride on the Tiger I'm just about guaranteed to look like a blinking idiot at least once :eek1.
  8. Yossarian™

    Yossarian™ Deputy Cultural Attaché

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    I like it that most bikes don't have self-cancelling signals. It lets me know which riders are not paying attention to their surroundings.
  9. MedicineBow

    MedicineBow Adventurer

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    So, who do you assume are paying attention? The ones with their eyes on the road, or the ones looking at the blinky lights on the handlebar?
  10. Yossarian™

    Yossarian™ Deputy Cultural Attaché

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    I've found in my years of motorcycling that it's not beneficial to have "tunnel vision" but rather to have a broader awareness of my surroundings.\

    If I notice a blinking light on my dash, it's usually in my peripheral vision, and my first move is to just his the cancel button. If the light goes away, then all's good, and I don't have to spend my full attention dollar taking care of it.
  11. JGoody

    JGoody Been here awhile

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    "The fake carbs on the Bonneville. They look nice... but fake is fake."



    That's exactly why I didn't get one. I'd be happy if it looked like my 66 Bonneville (sadly long ago sold) that I had updated with EFI. We did mod them back in the day in various ways and if EFI existed then someone would have added it -- and been proud of it!
  12. JGoody

    JGoody Been here awhile

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    My sons dealer got Ducati to pay for a new tank.
  13. southwade

    southwade ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

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  14. BmoreBandit

    BmoreBandit nomo B

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    This thread is surprisingly quiet. One would think there are all sorts of little issus bikes have (and they do!) that could be expored here. Here are some of my contributions-

    KLR, DRZ, whatever Japanese dual sport- Gearing. It sucks. Yes, yes, I get it they are cheap so they have to have shitty suspension, or subpar brakes, I get it, but would it be so hard to gear them little better. Add a 6th to those bikes and sell the things for more money, I'd buy it. Now the 1st is tall or 5th short, regardless or what I do.
    KTM 950Adv, wind protection sucks big balls. Hello buffeting.
    SV, Bandits, ZRX- pogo stick suspension to the point it could be considered unsafe. I mean, it works but if you have few pounds on ya and like to ride little harder, it shows it flaws right away. Okay, they are cheap, so you were meant to upgrade.
    Lack of small nice stuff on Japanese midium grade stuff- really, SS brakes would set them too far back. They would sure look good and impressive from the factory. But, noooo, too much money.
    European stuff, even though it has it's own issues, at least comes with some proper stuff.
  15. helotaxi

    helotaxi Been here awhile

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    If it makes you feel any better, they similarly handicapped the new 800XC the same way. Dialed for the road but in particular, 1st is way too tall for any kind of technical off-road riding. Sad too, because the bike is otherwise fantastic. Well, other than the stock windshield which sucks.

    KTM 500EXC- to call the seat a pine board is insulting to pine boards everywhere. No surprise that there appears to be a thriving aftermarket for better seats for the smaller KTM's.
  16. Pesqueeb

    Pesqueeb Bacon is a fad.

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    Probably already mentioned, but the F650GS water pump. Really BMW? Who ever designed that piece of shit needs to be drawn and quartered. I love my thumper, but Jesus that water pump is stupid.
  17. Jimo368

    Jimo368 intrepid traveller

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    +1 on the fasteners, why do you need three different types of tools to take off one body panel? I once had a TW200 that required tools to take off the side cover to get to the tool kit. My other grip is the amount of heat coming off my ST1300. I actually stopped a few times and checked to see if I had burns on the inside of my legs on moderately warm days. This ruins an almost perfect bike. Great on cold days though.:rofl
  18. alii1959

    alii1959 Been here awhile

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    I absolutely hate those stupid plastic rivet things that they are using to hold the fairings on most of the bikes today. There is no way to take them off easily without screwing them up. Plus on my Gixxer there are at least 3 types...why???
  19. Jimo368

    Jimo368 intrepid traveller

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    I have those same plastic rivets on my ST, except there is FOUR differnent types.
  20. OBX-RIDER

    OBX-RIDER Long timer

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    I'll third this.... The DRZ comes sooo close to being an everyman's inexpensive easily maintained dirt worthy adventure tourer....except any sprocket mix compromises the bike..

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    Seats and even suspensions are easy fixes....but an overdrive sixth gear? Geez Suzuki my wife's little Super Sherpa has 6 gears ... why not the Driz...?