Bikes with flaws you hate

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by southwade, Jan 17, 2012.

  1. bwalsh

    bwalsh UUU, UUU!!!

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    Be glad you don't own a Ford 6.0 or 6.4 liter diesel truck(No, I don't own one). The cab has to be removed from the frame to do most any work on the engine...and people here complain about removing fairings and body panels on bikes for valve adjustments/oil changes. :lol3
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  2. IHWillys

    IHWillys Been here awhile

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    Yes, I've been there, done that and cursed them too. However, I eventually learned that it is likely they are JIS head, not Phillips. Supposedly, using a JIS screw driver versus a Phillips will do wonders toward not stripping out a JIS head fastener. I still don't own a JIS driver but I do have an impact driver that I've even replaced bits for...

    Ken
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  3. fastdadio

    fastdadio Still gettin faster

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    :eek2 You gotta be shittin me! This is the kind of stuff one needs to research prior to purchase. Buyer beware. Parts and service is everything after the sale.
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  4. Dan-M

    Dan-M Long timer

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    My Husky has a spring loaded kickstand (on the left, of course) and the oil level check plug is on the right side so pull the check plug, as soon as you straighten the bike to check the oil level, the kick stand retracts so you have to hold the bike up and walk around it to put the stand back down. The seat is too high to reach over and put the stand down by hand.
    Everytime I changed or checked the oil I was swearing. I've since put on a clutch cover that has a sight glass. Still on the right but at least I don't have to deal with the plug.

    Now, the new camhead GS has the oil sight glass on one side and the oil fill on the other. WTF?
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  5. VxZeroKnots

    VxZeroKnots Long timer

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    so just to be clear, people are complaining about real throttle bodies that look like carbs and thusly are fake?
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  6. bwringer

    bwringer Gimpy, Yet Alacritous

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    Can't believe no one has mentioned the craptastic stock V-Strom windshield. From the original '02 DL1000 through the latest 2012 DL650, they suck, suck, suck. EVERYONE has to change the windshield to make their V-Strom safe and tolerable to ride.

    Seriously, it's bad. Short or tall, your head will feel like a punching bag after a mile or two at speed.



    While we're at it, let's just take a moment to ponder why, after 40+ years of selling bikes in the US and Europe, NONE of the Japanese manufacturers has figured out how to build a bike with stock suspension that works if you're not an anorexic Japanese teenager.
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  7. Phineas

    Phineas Joe Lunchbox

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    The way my VFR feels like the best bike ever made, except that I can't go on a trip without a rectifier in my pack and how even after a factory recall and an aftermarket charging harness I only got 30K miles out of a stator and the complexity of the v-tec valve adjustment...but all that's only ten irritating percent of the time and then it takes another ten percent of the time to forget about the problem, then I'm back to thinking it's just the greatest bike for a long time...then the stator goes...
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  8. slartidbartfast

    slartidbartfast Love those blue pipes

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    That's my DR350/435. Don't know what it was like as a 350cc but the gear ratios are so close I can be in 6th gear within fifty yards and still at only 30 mph. 3rd, 4th and 5th all feel about the same for most purposes. It barely needs four gears to cover the current 1st-6th range and could do with a much taller top gear.

    Here's another: I had a 100cc bike with a hydraulic disk front brake in 1980. Why does Honda still provide the Nighthawk 250 with a small front drum for the US market?
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  9. KeithinSC

    KeithinSC Long timer

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    Tell your Uncle not to bother with the exhaust, mounts and bags. All you need to do is remove the shocks, the swingarm will the be able to droop far enough to get the axel out (it will be REAL close to the pipe). I do it all the time on my Interstate.
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  10. YAHBO

    YAHBO Grip and rip since 1983

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    Interesting thread...I have a K1300GT that sees most of my touring duty in the good weather and this bike has/does everything you could ask for in a modern bike.

    The throttle/injection flat spot is enough to piss me off. It usually occurs in first second first up and down shifts. It requires more concentration and clutch feathering than necessary and is distracting.
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  11. YAHBO

    YAHBO Grip and rip since 1983

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    My Husky has a spring loaded kickstand (on the left, of course) and the oil level check plug is on the right side so pull the check plug, as soon as you straighten the bike to check the oil level, the kick stand retracts so you have to hold the bike up and walk around it to put the stand back down. The seat is too high to reach over and put the stand down by hand.
    :lol3
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  12. baloneyskin daddy

    baloneyskin daddy bikaholic

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    The fuel gauge on my 1050 Tiger will read empty if you turn the bike off when its below a quarter tank and turn it back on.What good is a fuel gauge like this? The headlight is also worthless on twisties at night as the pattern has no peripheral light.
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  13. Grackle

    Grackle Adventurer

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    I've been learning this lesson the hard way recently, but I'm putting everything back together with socket cap fasteners.
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  14. der_saeufer

    der_saeufer ?איפה בירה

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    Vented gas cap on the DL650. The tank is black and it's often very hot here. Delicious gas fumes. Seriously?! Even KLRs have a vent hose!

    Also the stock horn on every single bike I've ever ridden is full of fail.
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  15. willis 2000

    willis 2000 neo-quixote

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    My '95 R1100R was so bad I hated riding it. The seat pushed me into the tank. It has rubber bumpers at the rear and I cut them down to make the seat level. Problem solved. The ABS lights flashed all the time. I wired in a relay to stop this, now the ABS works.The bars were too high and close. Changed them to Renthal lows and it has a good riding position.The catalytic converter burned my feet, so I got aftermarket exhaust parts. The OE tires were too small, I replaced them with Metzelers that calibrated my speedo. The exhaust change dropped 18 lbs. Now, the handling's neutral, but I still have no power. I'm waiting for some ADV shit to fix the fuel injection. Ohlins shocks made it ride correctly for my weight. No wonder the wheels bend, the front shock had no damping, but the fine geometry made it difficult to discern. The rear shock was oversprung, and hammered on all bumps. It's much more controlled now. So, don't give up on bikes with flaws you hate, think about it, get advice. make it yours.
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  16. PeterW

    PeterW Long timer

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    The DL650 does have a vent hose. Find yours and unblock it.

    Pete
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  17. dakardood

    dakardood Been here awhile

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    The p**s-poor fuel gauges on the BMW R1200's. The strips inside to detect the fuel level just stop working eventually so your dash constantly says "FUEL!" flashing at you with a yellow warning light permanently on. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr!
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  18. Nadgett

    Nadgett Been here awhile

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    Harley mirrors that only let you see your elbows, and turn signal buttons that require five inch long thumbs to use.
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  19. Dilligaf0220

    Dilligaf0220 Miserablist

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    The seat on every moderately sporty bike designed after 1992.

    Origami folded plastic tanks, that look cool to 12 year olds with a Transformer fetish but a real PITA to find a decent tank bag for.

    That Buells were made by Eric Buell & HD, not Kawasaki.

    Every teenage wannabe stuntah that owned a 90's Kwak I was interested in, and thought that an iPhone & mismatched Harbor Freight imperial allen wrenches were all you needed to be a garage moto mech.

    The idiotic wiring on early Victory's, so if you burned out a tail light bulb the whole bike would be dead.

    The price tag of a Motus R.
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  20. Vrex

    Vrex n00b

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    BMW's power-assisted, aka "whizzy" brakes. A wonderful example of an answer to a question that nobody asked. And not even a good answer!:huh
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