Bikes with flaws you hate

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by southwade, Jan 17, 2012.

  1. gearheadE30

    gearheadE30 Long timer

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    My GS (the suzuki flavor) sends a nice little shock through the rider's right leg above 6000 rpm for no apparent reason if you're hugging the tank and of course it has the ubiquitous stator/rectifier issues.
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  2. peterman

    peterman cop magnet

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    I started riding moto powered 2 wheelers 53 years ago this coming spring.
    I have found with my years of afflicted involvement, dirt, endless highway, mud bogs and sand traps, riding around a pasture herding bovines,,,one and every,, all ,and each of them 2 wheeled rigs have the same problem.

    They do not have the endless fuel supply issue handled to suit my needs!

    Consider the reasons you stop when you are riding. I'm sure you have some, but I'll list a few of my reasons to stop riding,,,,,whoa!,pull over,,hold it a minute!

    you hafta pee (if you are old like me, this is likely #1)
    you stop to air down yer tires.
    you and yer buddies stop for lunch.
    you stop to take a pic of a beauty scenery scene!
    you stop to air up yer tires.
    it gets frikken dark, and you head back to camp.

    or, (and this is silly)

    you run out of gas!

    As you can see, all halting issues are valid except the last one,, I mean,, if you gotta stop to pee, then you GOTTA stop or ride with wet shorts!!, but,,there is simply no good reason that a motosickle should ever need fueling, much less RE-fueling!,,, a silly concept, and a poor design, but, that's what you'll get from engineers.
    And THAT is what I hate about motorsickles! ALL OF THEM!:1drink
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  3. willis 2000

    willis 2000 neo-quixote

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    Buncha whiners. Your regulator/rectifier issues are easily solved by installing a modern MOSFET regulator/rectifier. Cable routing? C'mon, did your bike come with a sticker prohibiting re-routing these cables? A Husqvarna is kind of a kit, isn't it? Exotics always need a little taming, that's why some work better than the run-of-the-mill. Soft/hard suspension is one of the easiest and most satisfying repairs one can undertake. Yes, aftermarket parts are expensive, but I've completely transformed suspension performance with spacers and torched springs. Or, take the easy route and buy a new bike every year. Leave it stock, it makes it better when those of us with imagination and common sense get our hands on it.
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  4. KodiakRS

    KodiakRS Adventurer

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    The 2010 c14 from kawasaki. They responded to requests to increase the tank range by adding a pretty much worthless Eco mode. Hey dummies, you know what increases tank range? A bigger tank.

    Sprint gt. A touring bike with a seat to peg relationship more cramped than a super sport.
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  5. Commanderkewl

    Commanderkewl Been here awhile

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    Had an old Maxim. Tank slapper every once in a while. Had to recover seat because of one.

    Smoky startup on k series BMWs if you park it on the sidestand.. Kills mosquitoes tho...

    Yeh the GS Series bikes with the strip in the fuel tank. Head out and get gas every 100 miles because the thing shows empty... Grrrr...

    Starter engagement on the 80s viragos. Wrrrrrrrrrrrrrr clik wrrrrrrrrrrrr clunk.....
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  6. orangebear

    orangebear Long timer

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    all bmw airheads do that as the sidestands have a very bad lean on them.
    my bmw gs tank is fine for about 200-240miles
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  7. blackx70

    blackx70 Been here awhile

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    My ex250 marks are the same. They do not match. I have to eyeball it when I adjust the chain. It has worked for the 37,000 miles that I have owned her.
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  8. Patrol

    Patrol VALE 46!

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    The herby jerky throttle on the 990 Adventure. Almost entirely corrected by pulling the exhaust baffles, but a gong show til you figure that out.
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  9. Tall Man

    Tall Man Freelancer

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    Perhaps the big DL is otherwise absent because its few quirks are known to have easy fixes.

    -Lean map? Power Commander III or V.
    -Windscreen buffeting? Madstad bracket. (Or just suck it up. It's a motorcycle. The ride gets breezy from time to time.)
    -Clutch chudder? In the early model years, definitely. If not originally attended to under warranty, it can be fixed with a proven clutch basket mod.
    -Tall factory gearing? Not a problem for many guys. If so, it's easy peasy to change to 16/43.
    -Heavy pull of hydraulic clutch? Now there you have me! There's no known fix for this particular issue.

    The Vee is beloved for a reason. You must agree that its favorable reputation would generally serve to disqualify the bike from prolonged discussion on this particular thread.
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  10. southwade

    southwade ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

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    It still has ghastly headlights. :D
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  11. advNZer?

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    jeepers i got used to them in 1 ride...one side for right one side for left how complex is that?.I dont like the fact you have to keep putting money in the gas tank...
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  12. Electrojake

    Electrojake Career Neophyte

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You forgot ugly, and...
    The 3mm rear wheel shim offset thing,
    The throttle bodies blowing clean off the intake boots after the TPS device fails and the bike won't idle after a long highway run.
    Did I mention the grossly inaccurate fuel gauge due to the weak ground return that feeds the trouble-prone in-tank fuel pump assembly?
    And something about hub-rubbers occasionally self destructing in the rear wheel assembly? (ask me how I know)

    [​IMG]

    And that little rubber hose that feeds the two injectors has a nasty tendency to leak raw fuel on top of the engine once the bike is heated up and under load.

    [​IMG]
    (That minor leak on top of your Vee is not coolant, its gasoline. Trust me.)
    BTW: That pesky little hose is a $165.00 part.

    I won't get into saddles, wind screens, stock handlebars, front shocks, or even stock mirror removal to eliminate the heinous buffeting that every one assumes is the piss-poor windscreen.

    Ya know, If I didn't have a Harley, A GS500, and old Honda that consistently run like a fine clock, I might think all bikes run like a V-Strom.
    Not that I don't love my big Vee [​IMG]
    -Ej-
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  13. oldtrout

    oldtrout Been here awhile

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    jeepers i got used to them in 1 ride...one side for right one side for left how complex is that?.I dont like the fact you have to keep putting money in the gas tank... <!-- / message --><!-- sig -->
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    Sorry my flightless bird friend.:D

    I'm a geezer, so too many years on Jap(anese) motos.

    Three switches - Left-right- onoff ?? Mt thumb has to roll off the gas to cancel. Wiring ++++

    Other than that, the finest bike I have owned. Plus 10 !

    Hows your summer ? (lucky bastage ..):freaky

    Cheers
    Cold-Trout
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  14. Roam

    Roam If you want to

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    The instruments on F800GS. Hideous and bassackwards. Which is a shame because the rest of the bike looks quite good. BMW dumped the fugly Instruments from the R1200R hopefully they'll do the same for the f800.
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  15. Roam

    Roam If you want to

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    WR250R/X
    Shitty mirrors that mostly show your elbows. I expect this from a sportbike but it's inexcusable for DS/ Motard.

    Victory Vegpinhampots
    It's practically impossible to fill the tank without gas spraying out. This is a problem with the fuel pumps with holes around the end. Out in the country were the fuel nozzles don't have those holes it isn't a problem.
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  16. LittleRedToyota

    LittleRedToyota Yinzer

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    that's an interesting take on it. i've always thought the exact opposite.

    mirrors on dual sports need to be tucked tight in with the handle bars so they don't get torn off by trees/broken off when dropping the bike/etc.

    for a bike that never leaves the street, it seems to me you can have them stick out as far as required to see around your elbows.
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  17. duck

    duck Banned

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    Tilt it to the right for a little while after you turn it off and before you put it on the sidestand. This allows a lot of the oil behind the pistons to drain back into the sump so there's less oil to seep past the rings and will be a lot less smoky on startups.
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  18. slartidbartfast

    slartidbartfast Love those blue pipes

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    K- bikes may do that a lot but my airhead R80RT has chucked out smoke on start-up only once in 20,000 miles and the oilhead has never done it. I frequently park both on their sidestands.
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  19. Ronin ADV

    Ronin ADV Gear addict

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    The instruments on the F800 don't bother me too much but we could probably fill this thread entirely with some of the stupid shit on that bike in stock form. I would say top of the list would be rims made out of a tin foil like substance, a stock suspension that is a joke in the dirt, and a rear shock bolt configuration that without modification can bend the frame. Fortunately all these are fixable with time and money.
    As to the WR 250 mirrors, there is a solution called Highway Dirt Bikes. Top of the line guards with mirrors you can tuck out of the way in the dirt.
    OP - this is a great idea for a thread by the way. Unfortunately The Perfect Line has had a serious lack of descent threads for a while. Nice job turning it back up a bit.

    Dan
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  20. southwade

    southwade ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

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    Thank you... honestly I made this thread because I plan on buying a new/used bike soon.
    In bike reviews online, all you ever hear is "this thing is awesome." You never hear stuff like this... the stuff only real people know.