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Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by davidji, Nov 18, 2012.
Might explain how I held one off with my R90 across a twisty bit in NC years ago.
The biggest complaint of all bikes Japanese back then was, they did good in a straight line but scary in the curves. ( I remember those bikes) Euro bikes ruled the twisties back then. Today, most bikes, regardless of their origin work well, under most conditions. Thanks to Olins and others, for creating units of equalization... tp
That's funny. Comparing the Vespa to the Heinkel is kind of like comparing a Ducati Monster to a Harley Road King. They're completely different. I own both (a '64 GS160, and a '60 Heinkel 013A1), and they are really different to ride. The Vespa is a hell of a lot more fun, especially on a twisty road; the Heinkel is far better at touring.
If you should happen to still have the remains of that GS160, they're worth quite a bit these days. (And note that just about any 2-stroke will sieze "on a long downhill coast". The lubrication is in the fuel, and any sort of engine braking will have it turning higher revs than idle with the same lubrication as at idle, causing it to be underlubed. *Never* engine brake with a 2-stroke.)
Even when it was new everybody loved the motor & hated the crap chassis on the CBX.
There were half a dozen Euro shops building frame kits to bolt in the CBX motor (which really does sound as good as you hope it does). Spondon still builds frames for the I6, all you need to do is source a motor and do a little garage wrenching. 380lb, stiff, well handling bike that the CBX never was.
you didn't find an '83....the last year was '82. The first couple of years were twin shock, the change to Pro-Link made for the "sport touring" variant years ('81-'82)...a much better handling bike. The engine was not a horsepower monster, so I doubt it outperformed the chassis - it was a long, heavy bike.
Forks were still a bit spindly, and if you expected much serious handling even by 10yr-ago standards, you were expecting too much.
The new Bonnies. Tried numerous ones and they are all boring. They work well enough, comfort, handling, braking pwoer are all very good for a bike in its class and price but somehow I feel bored on it. It does everything very well except it is as interesting as a new kitchen appliance.
Having a hard time wrapping my head around the 380lb claimed wieght.
Stock CBX's were over 600lbs, and much of that was drivetrain.
Other than that, it looks like a neat bike.
That's beautiful (except for the cheesie headlight brackets). I love the single side swingarm.
I was touring the Olympic Peninsula a few years ago, we were gassing up in the morning and an early model red CBX pulled up at the pumps. We all rushed over to look at it and within 5 minutes there was about 15 motorcyclists crowded around the bike.
The owner was touring on it and said that the same thing happened every time he stopped. Definitely an icon.
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The Harley Sportster 883 Iron.
I really wanted to like this bike. Basic, no frills, good ergos and just a bit of character. However from the moment I picked it up off the kick stand I knew it wasn't going to be right. Heavier then I thought a bike of that size should be and when I started it I watched the gas tank shake like a paint can being prepped. The engine had a very noticeable valve tapping noise that the dealer told me was normal. On the road it handled well enough but just when things started getting fun it felt like someone turned off the air and the bike refused to get up and move out of it's own way. Additionally I found the suspension to be absolute garbage. It felt like I was riding down a set of railroad tracks.
Now I don't expect a bike to be %100 perfect fit to me from stock, but I do want it to show me it's finer points on the test ride. The amount of money that the 883 Iron needs to get out of it's stock phase is well beyond what I am willing to put into $8000 bike. Sucks
I really wanted to like it.
I think just about every bike ever built has been covered now. Any we've missed?
Rocket 111 Roadster?
i covered the dr650 earlier
Anyone mention the Yamaha XS650? I bought one in '81. Black and chrome, a thing of beauty. Any speed over 50mph, the whole bike shook so badly, from bars to pegs, it was impossible to use on the highway. The bike went to the first guy who admired its looks. Someone stole it from him.......tp
Klr 650. I've owned two. The first one was the first new bike I ever owned and my 2nd bike in total. I owned it for a few years, it was my sole transportation. I tried to make it more comfortable with a corbin and taller windscreen. No dice, the thing beat me up so much that after an hour I was sore after two hours I couldn't wait to get off the bike. So I sold it and bought a bandit. Not really the best bike for me, so if sold that and bought and xr650l. The xr was better than the klr in every way, lighter, smoother on the highway, light years better off road, and more powerful over all. I was just getting ready to add cases and a new windscreen when it was stolen. After this I was bike less for two years before I bought another klr. I thought I'd give it another try. It was fine to ride around town but no fun on extended trips. So I sold that one as well. Just never really got the klr. I think the xr650l can be made into such a better tourer for not much money.
My first bike was an '85 Magna VF700C. I loved it.
I sold it, got a '98 Triumph Trophy, and RT, etc.. somewhere in there I had the chance to buy it back. I thought I'd love it, all the nostalgia if nothing else.
I sold it soon after. Just never wanted to ride it. Was uncomfortable, handled and braked poorly.Was a better memory than a ride.
If this thread goes long enough, we will eventually list every bike ever made. No bike will suit everyone.
For me (6'1", 185) the bikes I really wanted to like but never could were:
'98 CBR600F3. I bought it new and never felt comfortable with the bike. The buzzy grips made my hands numb in half an hour. The seating position made we want to get off the bike and rest in about the same amount of time. My other bike at the time was a VF1100S, which I still think was my most liked bike, and comparing these two made the F3 a short-lived resident of my garage. I only put about 3500 miles on it before it was gone.
'05 FJR1300. I bought this when I got rid of the CBR. Without a 6th gear (which was added in later years) this bike was always running at high rpm on the highway, and was always throwing too much heat on my legs. A very stable performer, but the heat, and again the buzzy grips caused it to be sold before the odo hit 10,000.
Like others have said, I've sold the ones that didn't "fit" me. Part of me wishes I still had the V65 Sabre. There was nothing like that smooth V4 with lots of torque.
wrong.... been a five speed since day one.
My '07 was one of my favorite bikes of all time - very sporty side of the sport-touring equation, great comfort and range....and very low maintenance.
I put over 34,000 miles on mine in under two years with the stock seat and ergonomics.
+1..... my 1st bike.... bought a used one in '83.... that bike was so boring........ Zzzzzzzzz......
Triumph Thunderbird Sport. I bought a new one in '04 after having been away from bikes for many year. Still had it when I just had to have a R1150R. Got that and kept the bird too. Finally sold the bird as I was riding the RR mostly. A couple of years ago I came across another bird. (Still riding the RR). I went and tested the guys bird. I just didn't love it. it made me wonder why I bought the first one.