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Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by davidji, Nov 18, 2012.
It's 36 mpg. Not horrible, but I got 45 avg out of my 1200.
2008 MG Norge.
For me---no 'soul'---weak---etc.
Liking any bike is a state of mind.
The 2011 CBR250R does what it was designed to do and does it well. A 25hp commuter powerplant in a small cheap sport bike package. Minimalism.
I really wanted another SRX250 for occasional 8/10s but low actual speed blasts around the White Mountains of NH. Also to regain my lost youth misspent during those SRX days.
As it turns out I like a bit more of a hit than the CBR offers. 40 hp is my new minimum. My former GS500F offered that in a dirt cheap used slightly larger small sport bike package. Can't outrun soccer moms but its fun to climb that GS powerband.
A tiny sport bike is just plain uncomfortable to start with, for me, even if it is more comfortable than other tiny sport bikes.
Next blast through nostalgia, looking for a later year XJ600s for that same riding mission. The XJ is a very pretty bike, too.
2001 Triumph Speed Triple. How can a motor so great be sooo boring? Not enough forward lean, heavy, totally linear characterless motor.
2007 BMW R1200GS. I loved to hate it. Does that count? Too big, too heavy, and even Ohlins couldn't get the suspension sorted the way I wanted it. Didn't stop me from putting 48k on one though.
1995 ZX11. Heavy long assed rocket ship. What a motor! And the rest of the bike just didn't fit me for crap.
I'm loving my Ducati Monster EVO - huge character, great looks, handles like a hummingbird on crack.
Linear is good in a car, "...over 85% of maximum torque all the way from 1500 rpm and up to redline!..." with their automatics and cup holders and TVs on the dash.
Linear is bad in a bike. Am conditioned to feel power increase as rpms climb in a cammy motor. Even if I want a decent amount of grunt down low. My former EX250 did this very well, without the grunt. Pulled increasingly from 2,000 to 13,000 in a steady building rush.
OK back to the bike bash- 1973 Guzzi Lemans MKIII. Owned it for two months in 1984. Could not believe how uncomfortable it was. Suspension was stiff to the point of being locked up. Huge torque pull to the right. Clunky tranny. Pretty but let it go immediately. Wish I had it now for a tenth bike. I would park it next to a Wards benelli 175. Wish I had time, money and space for ten bikes.
Honda CX500. Good ideas in a comfortable, reliable package, but didn't do much of anything well besides get you there.
Do you mean '83 M-G LeMans.
KLR650. I wanted to like it, I really did. I have some friends who have them and love them, but it just didn't work for me. The thing was incredibly big, heavy and tall. Really top heavy even with an empty gas tank. If it leaned over more than about 2 degrees before I got a foot down, that bike was going DOWN! I dropped it once in my garage and had to have a friend come over and help me pick it up.
Also it tended to run the battery dead for no apparent reason. I tried three batteries and concluded that wasn't it. The charging system seemed to check out ok, but the battery would just go dead sometimes. I was out on a ride one time, bike was running great all day, stopped to take a photo. Pushed the magic button when I was ready to go - click click click. Had to have a friend come rescue me with his truck. Another time I was going to ride it to work but the battery was dead. I'd just ridden it the day before and all was well. Never did figure it out.
I was never happier to see a bike go away....
Honda Crossrunner. It's a nice bike (handles good and is fast), but it was so smooth and soulless that it was dull. I thought it was too expensive for what it was. After reading reports on it for months I had convinced myself I was having one. I went cash in pocket to buy one and did a proper test ride and it was disappointing. Glad I didn't buy one without a test ride! Luckily my local honda dealer has demo bikes of almost everything.
You have a good Japanese bike dealer, there. It's next to impossible to get a demo from a Japanese only dealership, here. I've been able to test ride a Honda once back in 1990, but not since then. Been able to test every Euro bike I've bought and still have made some bad purchases. Guess test rides don't give one the complete story, especially when that special bike is THE ONE you gotta have TODAY.
It is amazing to me that distributors do not make test bikes available at dealerships on a rotational basis. I wouldn't expect every M/C dealership to have models available, but there is a serious marketing flaw in the M/C industry by not having a corporate truck come to visit and provide demos to larger markets a few times a year. I know some do it, but not all.
Car dealers would never sell any product if test rides were not available... You KNOW how tactile and emotionally attached we get to bikes and cars
The main flaw with that is.
You know how many wanna be squids would want to test ride a 'Busa and then end up suing the motorcycle manufacturer?
Or at least their next of kin would sue.
But I agree, it would be nice to get a test ride. I've had car dealers let me take a demo car for a weekend or more, so you can live with it a bit.
Could save a lot of money if bikes were available for the same.
But then there would be no entries in this thread! Buying the wrong bike makes for great reading.
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Sidecar on my GSA....felt like an old f*ck!
Sold it! Now waiting for new WC GSA...
Two bikes come to mind. 2008 Victory Hammer S... Fun fast bike, in a straight line, found out I don't like forward controls, could never get comfortable on the thing, so while buying oil at the stealer, I was eyeing a KTM Adventure. Thought about buying an adventure bike before the hammer, didn't like the V-strom, didn't want a BMW, never knew KTM made a bike this big.
Sales guy caught me eye the bike, took a test drive, and later road it home. Initially I liked the A990. Then the longer rides started, couldn't find a way to make the bike comfortable, changed a bunch of stuff. Then there was the maintenance. I spent a lot of time wrenching on that bike. Finally had enough, test road a Tenere... And now I own the a super tenere and the KTM is becoming a memory. I like the Tenere a lot better. Like most I do mostly road riding, with little off road. Maintenance is much easier. I am rather content with the Tenere.
Of course in the back ground through all of this my true motorcycle love, the Victory Vision. Damn near perfect right off of the showroom floor.
The comments about the ninja 650 are...puzzling. My son has one, and my personal experiences with riding it are completely different to the point I wonder if there was something wrong with the one you got to demo. I live in Florida and there is zero heat from the engine or the exhaust even in 95 degree weather and in traffic. His mirrors don't shake at all, and rearward images are very clear, no intake honk at all. The only things I'd knock it for are; overly soft suspension, (but it does handle well despite this) and waaaay too many fasteners in the overly complex fairing.
My room mate also has a Ninja 250 and I've ridden that extensively too...great bike, that's really only in need of 10-15 more horsepower, and a seven or eight speed transmission.
The worst bike I've ever owned was a Yamaha Seca II...not because the bike did anything wrong but because it was built to a 3,999.00 price point. The result was a bargain basement bike, made of mostly cheap(er) parts. It was very reliable though.
Harley-Davidson 883 Sportster. A triumph of the marketing dept over the r&d dept!
Needs lots of stuff done to it just to get it to ride like a normal motorcycle...
Overweight, overpriced & under performing.
But its got a lovely characterful engine which makes me smile each time I start it up. In much the same way that I smile when I attend a nostalgia motor show and grin at all the old steam traction engines, old diesel trucks, tractors etc... They, like the Sportster, don't belong on a 21st century fast European highway...
I love it!
I love it too.. As much as I can see all the shortcomings, the aircooled Sopwith Camel style powerplant speaks to me. Sensible side says 'sell it and buy a Honda' but my heart says 'stick with it'.
Its always the way that the heart overrules the head
Mine had overly harsh suspension. But it was older, and different years and markets would get different spring rates. For the rest, I agree. No heat on the leg, clear mirrors.
Handling seemed fine to me--though I raised the forks in the triple clamps to match Kawi specs. From mine and from the forums at the time it seemed like all of them were assembled with the forks 10mm lower than spec--flush with the triple clamp.