Bikes you didn't like nearly as much as you thought you would.

Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by davidji, Nov 18, 2012.

  1. dirtdreamer50

    dirtdreamer50 long time rider

    Joined:
    May 12, 2010
    Oddometer:
    1,438
    Location:
    texas coast
    Wish I could have lamented the same way over several of my previous rides...
  2. TheBlurr

    TheBlurr Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2013
    Oddometer:
    5,588
    Location:
    Montana
    love my zx6r, it is a pleasure to ride and I am perfectly comfy riding on it all day.

    Ninja 250, I really thought it would be great to save on gas so I bought one new in 03, peppy motor, light and handled well in traffic, felt like I was riding on a 4x4 and after a half hour I would have visions of riding it into a borrow pit and just leaving it.
    Ducati 996, hands down one of the best looking bikes ever made, I had the chance to rock one at the track, and I couldnt wait to get off it, very boring powerwband IMO and I really didnt like the over the front wheel feeling.
    Honda CBX 6 cyl motorcycle, my god that thing was freaky to ride, every corner I just waited for it to fall over uhggg.
    Gonna add the Z1000 to that list, powerplant was fine, but the bike itself felt very unstable to me.
  3. BrookTrout

    BrookTrout Adventurer

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2007
    Oddometer:
    64
    Absolutely.

    I get 46-48 all day long on the freeway. In the mountains, the mpg moves into the low-mid 50's.
  4. Skowinski

    Skowinski Eukaryote

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2009
    Oddometer:
    8,482
    Location:
    Terra Firma
    04 Hayabusa here, and as BrookTrout indicated in his well constructed expose, it's crap. So stable and planted feeling that at 120 mph you could almost fall asleep. I want to feel like I'm going fast when I'm winding it up like that, not loafing along, barely into the throttle. Boring bike.

    (mine has ranged between about 45 mpg and 55 mpg in all kinds of conditions, bone stock bike)
  5. eatpasta

    eatpasta Lawnmower Target

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2006
    Oddometer:
    11,570
    Location:
    Santa Barbara, Ca
    That's astonishing...... I never thought about it as being practical

    :lol3

    silly me
  6. dirtdreamer50

    dirtdreamer50 long time rider

    Joined:
    May 12, 2010
    Oddometer:
    1,438
    Location:
    texas coast
    Had an 05 ZZR1200 that felt just like that at speed, but upper 30's was the best I got in MPG. Below 100 mph, the bike was a bore, and needed speed to feel right. tp
  7. Jimmy the Heater

    Jimmy the Heater Dirt Farmer

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2004
    Oddometer:
    2,718
    Location:
    Eastern Washington State

    Hard to believe we are talking about the same bike. Yup, good thing there are other bikes to choose from. Glad they worked for you guys!
  8. Süsser Tod

    Süsser Tod Long timer

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2010
    Oddometer:
    1,191
    Location:
    Mexico City, Mexico
    I wanted a bike that was more touring capable than my XJR1300, that I've come to find is not very good at touring (but I love her dearl). It had to be a middle weight bike, good MPGs, reasonable power, etc. I took a long-ish trip on my XT660X (motard, thumper) and I really liked it, a wee bit more power would had been welcome but the thing that I never could stop thinking about were the tires, I don't want spoke wheels on long trips, I want tubeless tires that can be easily plugged.

    I was leaning into an ADV Tourer. Cue in the bike that has been called a wannabe motard or a cheap Multistrada, the Kawasaki Versys 650.

    Let the banghead begin [​IMG]

    I was worried about the power, I wanted thumper like low end torks. It has got them, it packs a surprising punch for an itty bitty 650cc twin. [​IMG]

    The suspension is surprisingly good! In fact, it does have better suspension than much more expensive bikes! [​IMG] Yep, it really doesn't suffer from a severe case of budgetitits like most bikes on that price range.

    Weather protection is actually good for the minimalistic fairings, and the small windscreen actually works. I really have no clue as to how it works, but it does [​IMG]

    It's comfy, but that was to be expected.

    The MPGs and fuel range are extraordinary.

    And that's it...

    It's not the least bit engaging to ride. But the handling... The handling. I got it because everybody praised its handling... Uhm, no. It's light and flickable compared to a double deck bus, my XJR1300 that is 75lbs heavier handles better.
  9. Yamarocket630

    Yamarocket630 Honey Badger

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2011
    Oddometer:
    997
    Location:
    Smyrna, TN
    01 Superhawk. Looked great, sounded great, uncomfortable, horrible mpg and a tiny tank. It also quite frankly was no fun unless you were flogging it and risking a ticket everywhere you rode.
  10. unlucky1

    unlucky1 Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2011
    Oddometer:
    396
    Location:
    Perched above the Salish Sea
    K1300GT - on paper it sounds pretty nice, but on the highway it gets blown around like a sail which blows my mind with how heavy a bike it is, the engine has all the character of a Honda Accord's, and the electronic fun police is too eager to step in and "help out".
  11. dmac57

    dmac57 Long timer

    Joined:
    Jul 20, 2004
    Oddometer:
    3,291
    Location:
    Western NC
    Yeah, but the funny thing is: That's on my "what bike do you want today" list.
  12. davidji

    davidji bike curious

    Joined:
    Mar 16, 2009
    Oddometer:
    1,301
    Location:
    california
    I'm replying to the guy whose Versys handles poorly. Sorry, quoting a post isn't working for me today.

    I sharpened the handling of my Versys by raising the fork tubes in the triple clamp.
  13. Süsser Tod

    Süsser Tod Long timer

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2010
    Oddometer:
    1,191
    Location:
    Mexico City, Mexico
    I'm going to have new tires put on it, wash it and then I'll place an ad to sell it. I'm not going to try to make the Versys something it isn't, been there, done that, it always ends up with a lot of wasted money and bike being sold at a loss. If the new tires make it more enjoyable I'll keep it, but I really doubt it. Whenever I get a new bike I just can't get my hands off it, I come up with excuses to go riding or just stay in the garage looking at it, the new toy sindrome. With the Versys I had got over the new toy phase before I even got home from the dealership, not in a buyer remorse kind of way, or in a "I hate this bike" way, just in an "I'm bored" way.
  14. Hughlysses

    Hughlysses Long timer

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2004
    Oddometer:
    3,787
    Location:
    Summerville, SC
    09 Buell 1125CR. Purchased at the "fire sale" in October 2009 a few days after HD shut Buell down. Fit me much better than my Uly, amazing handling and blistering acceleration. OTOH I found I was NOT comfortable with using that much power in many situations. Also 35 MPG vs 50 MPG on the Uly, vibration at speed, and more heat than the air cooled motor.

    I hit the point where I was either going to invest in an EBR ECM (for cooler running and less vibes), plus shop and parts books, plus some farkling/mods, or sell it and concentrate on the Uly. I sold it after ~1 year.

    I've occasionally missed it (ESPECIALLY when the crank on my Uly went out 6 months after I'd sold the CR), but the Uly is much better all-around bike for my needs.
  15. 131unlimited

    131unlimited Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2008
    Oddometer:
    546
    Twin cam softail with the balanced motor. Always had rubber mounts. Love how low you can sit in a softail and wanted to see what it was like to ride. Hard to give up a rubber mount being so smooth at highway speeds. The balanced twin cam softail motor is good up to 50 or so, but out on the highway at 65 to 85, the balancers cant keep up and the vibes just did not do it for me.
  16. SloMo228

    SloMo228 World Class Cheapass

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2012
    Oddometer:
    1,874
    Location:
    SE Michigan
    Just got back from a 3 week, 7500 mile trip on my ZRX1100, and I think I have to put it in this category. It's quick, it handles well, it's reasonably comfortable, it gets decent gas mileage, and it looks great. But I never really "clicked" with it. It's a riot around town but if you ride it like it wants to be ridden you'll lose your license before long. Honestly, there were many times on the trip where I was wishing I could swap the ZRX for my DR350. I'll be doing some post-trip cleaning and maintenance on it and putting it up for sale soon. I really wanted to love this bike, and I do like it, but I have way more fun on my little bitty DR, and the fun I have doesn't endanger my license too badly.
  17. dirtdreamer50

    dirtdreamer50 long time rider

    Joined:
    May 12, 2010
    Oddometer:
    1,438
    Location:
    texas coast
    I had the same problem with a Heritage. Looked soo good but was bad on the highway. I was told once that Harley left that higher speed vibration in intentionally to give the old rigid mount feeling. My Dyna custom at 60-80 is much smoother/better and no tingly fingers, either.

    FWIW, the ex picked out the Heritage, and it was gone a few weeks after the divorce.
  18. kaput13

    kaput13 gasoholic

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2010
    Oddometer:
    668
    Location:
    South Florida
    Bought a first year ZX14 hoping to rekindle my Jap bike fetish. Should have bought a gixxer instead.

    The ZX14 was fun if you like hanging on to a rocket but it got old like me.

    It had a problem with throttle snatch. It was heavy.

    It came electronically limited to smooth the low range torque hit. Big mistake. The bike was gutless under six grand.

    Even with Ivan's timing retard eliminator, which gave back some torque, and an aftermarket exhaust, it was still not the torque beast it should have been.

    No complaints over six grand though. Wham!

    Still after a while - the novelty rubs off. It was not much fun around town. Too much work.

    One man's opinion.
  19. oldoval

    oldoval Frank Orator

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2010
    Oddometer:
    1,259
    Location:
    Cedar City, UT
    I've got two.

    Last street bike was a 2010 Versys. The dealer let me take a quick test ride and I thought "Wow, I really like this thing". But about half way home I could tell I had maybe made a mistake. After a riding season of ownership I had decided it wasn't the right bike for me and I sold it with 9k miles. I just never really bonded with it. A lot of reviews say the motor is fun and interesting but that was never the feeling I got. To me the engine was always a bit too busy and vibey and pretty boring. If the Versys had an SV650 motor in the Kawasaki chassis I think I would have been a happy camper.

    The other bike is my current one....a Yamaha WR250R. While the bike does do some things really well, like tight offroad trails, it lags behind in other areas. For one, it's under powered. It's not the peak HP numbers that are the problem, it's how the engine makes it's power. It's all upper midrange and top end. You have to rev the WR like it's a 125 two stroke to get anywhere. Fall off the "pipe" and you're just dead in the water. I don't always want to be bouncing off the rev limiter when I want to cruise down the trail. My last 250 was a Honda XR250. That engine is all bottom end.....come up to a rock or ledge that you want to pop over an you just blip the throttle. The XR's engine fits my riding style better. The WR's suspension is pretty poor out of the box too.

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
  20. soggysandwich

    soggysandwich Banned

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2007
    Oddometer:
    204
    Location:
    usa
    your wrong about the 2008-2010 duke 690 suspension,,,,,the S/M and the duke share the same fully adjustable suspension, front and rear,,, only the the wheels , plastic , and exhaust are different.

    The Ackro F/I map from KTM cured any fueling issues.
    Once your are in the mountains on the twisty roads,,,the seat is exactly right .
    the KTM accessory windshield makes a Huge difference in comfort level

    After 5 yrs of riding the Duke,,,, I'll trade it for a KLR when I turn in my Man Card

    [​IMG][​IMG]