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Discussion in 'Face Plant' started by SiouxsieCat, Feb 10, 2013.
It took me about 5 minutes to read your OP due to your avatar....
Glad you're OK. Love the new bike!
I ride a V-Strom and Tiger 1050 over the Tobin bridge over Boston Harbor regularly - it's 250 feet high at peak, and Boston (little known fact) is the windiest major city in the US (although big gust happen everywhere). The bridge stanchions do break it up a bit, which is why I'm here to talk about it.
Adv bikes are on the tall side and have windshields and bags that increase their profile. Both my bikes have substantially upgraded suspensions and that helps a lot. I've tried canting my body into the wind, leaning down on the tank, etc etc. Only thing I've found that helps much is to grip the tank really hard with my knees. Have to think about why that helps.
Doesn't sound like much of anything could have helped the OP.
Hey, congratulations on the new ride...BTW, I found this post as I'm surfing the net today rather than riding.
35 mph steady with gusts to 50+ here in Maricopa AZ. No ride down into Mexico today.:huh
Tall people and large people are like sails on the bike I guess. The best solution is get off the interstate when the winds are high. The open spaces and elevated roadways allow the wind to flow at the maximum speed on the interstates. On secondary roads, the reduced speed and protection from foliage can make the ride more enjoyable on windy days.
Worst wind I ever road in was yesterday. US 395 south of Mammoth Lakes CA, they shut the road down to all truckers and high profile vehicles. I rode past one tractor trailer combo that had been literally blown off the freeway and was resting on it's side. Lots of emergency workers giving aid and working to get the NB side open.
Crazy stuff. Normally I don't mind riding in wind, but this was off the hook.:huh
I was taught to stick your windward knee out to act like a sail. Works very well in cross winds. http://faq.f650.com/FAQs/RidingTipsFAQ.htm#Riding in a Crosswind
Glad to hear you are OK. Sorry bout the ride. I think I met you at Engle Motors when you were picking up new bike. I was there trading mine for a new
I was about blown off that same stretch of road while riding a Harley Low rider.
Glad the road is as wide as it is, I used it all. Wind roaring up the river and over the bridge is a royal pain.
I got hit by a downburst in Wyo, We were ahead of a thunderstorm by a few minutes but a leading edge of a downdraft came out of nowhere. I saw the weeds and dust blowing and slowed as much as I safely could knowing I was going to get it. I was looking at the barrow ditch for an exit strategy the same time I was leaning into the wind. Luckily I got out of the blow with about a foot of pavement. The guys behind me had a chance to slow down. That happened quick :eek1.
Glad you're ok and got a new to you bike.
Thats some crazy stuff! Im glad your ok, the wind is a motherfucker man! A few years ago i rode through the outside edge of a tornado in maryland heights mo, the weather always gets dicked up there so i left early after seeing the weather report.Coming down 270 into maryland heights the sky was green , a few miles down the road and the wind was some of the msot intesne ive ever been in, the cars had parked under the over pass and that was my plan, until i seen the road signs swirling around, beating the shit outta the cars. I decided that boxing with big metal saws wasnt the right option and pressed on, luckily everyone else pulled over, i needed 2 lanes to deal with the wind changes, I will never forget that experience.
I'm a bit perplexed. Drove 10's of thousands of miles in northern MT and southern AB. 40 - 70 mph wind gusts and never had an issue.
Rode both a 750F and Goldwing and never got blown off the road.
I've never heard of such a thing.
I saw this on the news just Monday.
Semis blow over fairly regularly in Coutts / Sweetgrass MT. Even have pics of them in the bar(s).
so how did you come out with insurance company?
did they try to deny claim due to act of god clause?
they pay for high winds claims for property insurance.
My family was driving to Oklahoma a couple years ago and the wind blew us about 10 feet from the right lane to the left lane. We were in a mini-van that probably weighed around 5,000 lbs loaded up. Glad we (or anyone else) weren't in the left lane to start with xD
Sorry to hear about your bike, but glad you're OK.
Three years ago I was doing a fly and ride in January from Denver to Atlanta on a GSA. I forget the name of the pass I came over at dusk as I was heading to Texas (maybe through a sing part of NM). A beautiful view coming down off the mountain, but when I hit the plain at the bottom the wind was howling out of the north as I was heading east. I was hugging the center line but would regularly Get blown to the very edge of the pavement. Since the bike was new to me I probably want as in control as I would normally be, but I just was getting pushed at the mercy of the wind.
Crappy BMWs why can't they make those things more aerodynamic instead of eurodynamic?:huh Good to see people walking away from any accident!
The dynamics of cross gusts on motorcycles are fairly simple and quite devastating. When a gust approaches from your left you must lean the bike to the left by turning the front wheel to right, also known as countersteering. The problem is that the windpressure prevents the bike from leaning to the left. The front wheel is still turned to the right so your bike proceeds off the road to the right.It appears as if the bike was blown off the road when in reality it was steered off the road. I am not sure if there is anything you can do about it once caught in the gust. Trying to lean into the wind just steers the bike off the road faster.
In my studied opinion, a 60 mph cross gust is about as much as most bikes can withstand. I know there are plenty of people who say they can ride in 80 mph winds. They are probably poor judges of wind speed and just because the weather report says winds were up to 80 mph does not mean that an 80 mph gust crossed their bike on that day. I only say this because they make it sound like you can ride through anything. That is complete cap and there simply comes a time when you can't get there on two wheels. Hang it up or you can become a statistic.
Glad you're ok! I've ridden in some gnarly on-off crosswinds like you describe. It's like being in a race - requires all of your focus to make sure you're ready to adjust. I can totally see this happening if it caught you off guard. I had a moment one time on my Ninja 500 where it actually blew me a couple feet over. Luckily I was prepared for it, keeping the bike center-lane, and leaned down on the bike (to reduce the effect of the cross wind) and into it, and was ok. Well you know what they say man. This didn't kill you, so now you are stronger!
I think high winds is one of the scariest variables we motorcyclists face routinely. Glad the OP walked away and now has a nice new bike.
The USA has many very challenging windy areas IME, many already mentioned.
But by far the scariest I've ever encountered was in Argentine Patagonia on ruta 40 near Esquel: on a heavily loaded KLR650 I was down to first gear to maintain road contact, and it was like riding a barn door through an Oklahoma thunderstorm. I was barely to keep the bike on the road, I couldn't stop or I'd be blown over. I stopped in the lee of some parked semi-trailers who were waiting out the wind, they all agreed "viento muy malo"! It was so bad it made me physically exhausted/ill fighting it, but where I was I had to keep pushing on.
Rule of thumb for me in dealing with hideously windy conditions: slow the fuck down!
I think it was the Colombia river gorge which even came close to the horrors of riding through Patagonia. Most of us who have been through there pretty much all agree that that was the worst.
Anyway lesson to be learned, no matter what you are riding slow way down for the nasty winds.
I think the OP was pretty lucky to walk away from his misfortune.
I also ride an R1100GS though some nasty stuff here in Thailand but I think the heavy planted feel of the big GS might give one some unwarranted confidence in wind. While I was battling the wind in Patagonia I was wishing for my GS constantly. I'm really not sure the GS would have helped much.
Anyway cheers com-padres.
I got some intense wind stories flying airplanes in AK and NM but not really moto related, like when flying a C188A(agwagon) in Moriarty, NM; the wind was so strong down the runway I couldn't turn off on to the taxiway to the parking. I had to take off again and hover the airplane down over the parking spot.
Late '66 heading West on I-90 crossing the Columbia River at Vantage. I don't know how strong the wind was, don't care. The wind moved me across both lanes almost into the middle divider so quickly that I didn't even react until afterwards. Had the shakes so bad that I could hardly control the 305 Super Hawk I was riding. I stopped in Vantage at the little cafe and stayed put until the wind died down later in the afternoon.
I've never heard any mention of the effects of sudden gusts of wind in any MSF class I have taken. It is mentioned in a number of books but never in a class.