BMW 1150GS Clutch Splines spacer kit

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  1. cele0001

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    I can neither support nor argue with Unca Fud's advice. I can only tell you what I have installed my spacer with. My main motivation in using the rivets is to cut down on moving parts and keep "factory" look
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  2. roger 04 rt

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    Bolts sound like a better choice for me.

    What does torque to yield mean?
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  3. Jimmy

    Jimmy get in the van!

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    Agree on torqueing the bolts, but thread locker should help keep things tight. If it gets that hot, I may have bigger issues than to bolts loosening.

    From Loctite's site:
    Loctite® Threadlocker Red 271TM is designed for the permanent locking and sealing of threaded fasteners. The product cures when confined in the absence of air between close fitting metal surfaces. It protects threads from rust and corrosion and prevents loosening from shock and vibration. It is only removable once cured by heating up parts to 500°F (260°C).
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  4. Jim Moore

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    Me! I'm in. I'll bring the cash to your house. You gonna be around tomorrow? I may have just gotten freed up from work.
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  5. Jammess

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    Count me in as well.
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  6. Road Warrior

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    Payment & shipping info sent Esmir.

    THANKS !!!

    Road Warrior
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  7. sweatmark

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    Hey Cele, I was in on page 2 post 20. Overlooked?
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  8. Jammess

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    OK, put me down for one of the next 10.

    Thanks,

    James - Florence, OR
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  9. Jim Moore

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    Hi Guys,

    I went over to Esmir's house today. He's a smart, interesting guy with a lot of good ideas and some cool bikes in the garage. His pieces look very professional. I think this idea is a winner.

    Nice meeting you Esmir. We'll chat again soon.:freaky
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  10. KCDakar

    KCDakar What are we waiting for?

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    I'm not sure I'm being very clear with this question, but not sure how to ask it any other way... Will the Balance be off if the holes are bigger on the stock parts with the spacer needing a .2mm smaller bolt? Can that .2mm allow the clutch to shift enough to make it off center and cause vibration? How would a person counter this if it is an issue. Does the alinement tool keep everything in line or will .2mm not be enough of an issue?

    I'll shut up now...
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  11. cele0001

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    And this is what I have been thinking about last night and this morning.
    Do I say "Its going to be OK" and go with the good enough method?
    Bottom line is that the product is not what it should be. It should be 100% right or it shouldn't be out there.
    So here is what I came up with as I was doing my morning routine.
    I respectfully request one week extension in order to get with the machine shop owner and allow him to make it right. It is local and it is face to face so there shouldn't be a lot of back and forth.
    To those that already paid, if this is not an acceptable delay, I will refund the payment plus any paypal fees you encountered, no questions asked. Please PM me.
    Once again, I would rather fail because I was not able to do it then fail because my pride got the best of me.
    Thank you
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  12. KCDakar

    KCDakar What are we waiting for?

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    I'm in for the long haul. :thumb
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  13. Road Warrior

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    Hi Esmir.

    Regarding you not being 100 % happy with the hole size of the clutch spacer and requesting more time to get it right - I'm fully in favor of waiting for mine until you are confident of them being correct.

    The phrase this reminds me of is this : " You want it fast or do you want it right ". Most times you don't get both.

    I weeks delay is insignificant for a clutch repair on my 13 year old GS.

    Thanks, Ron
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  14. cele0001

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    It is not easy to run a project when R&D, supplier quality, customer service, PR, marketing, and warranty are all the same person. Lots of internal discussions going on.
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  15. cele0001

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    Ok so after a short talk and apology he is remaking 8 spacers starting tomorrow morning. I left a hub for him and m5 bolts as a go nogo tester.. So I have 2 spacers that are within specs. I would rather wait and ship them all at the same time unless there is somebody with a down bike that everybody would agree to cut in line.
    Oh and the explanation was that the bit was dull and started to walk. I don't know I am not a machinist.
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  16. cele0001

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    The rivets are finally here. Shinny one is 3/16

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    They are metric rivets 5mm not really everyday item. Imperial sizes are either 3/16 or 7/32 (5.5mm)

    Here are the measurements.

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    I will still go forward with the tooling for the rivets. I really believe it cuts down on the "what if" factor. Additionally rivets when properly set swell to fully take up space to become "zero clearance" fastener, something that bolt can never do. Bolt can compensate for it with friction by applying force o squeeze the parts but it can not expand where it matters.

    Here is what they look like. You gotta admit they are pretty.

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    And now my son wants to play with icons
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  17. Flingit1200s

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    If you are willing to have a second batch made or have anyone back out on the first batch, I am a buyer for 1ea! Paypal is no problem.
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  18. cele0001

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    I am already getting another run of 10 done, but let me sort out the outstanding orders first.
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  19. cele0001

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    I am picturing this for a simple rivet setting kit that you could use with hydraulic press.
    EDIT: After looking some more I think I should be able to make the top and bottom die the same.

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  20. mibinder

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    Esmir,

    Please put me on the list for one from the second batch when available and you are ready to ship. Paypal will be my method of payment.

    Thanks

    Mike
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